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07-17 07:25 PM
Thank you to every one who contributed to make ourselves heard. We still have a long way to go and must rejoice, only to regroup for the bigger fight!
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09-07 11:03 PM
Yes,, they did...
Our forefathers travelled to the promised land in ships that were full of rats, without food or water. Several of them died while trying to reach here.
Once here on the promised land, we had to fight our way to create a free society that you are dying to be part of. America is land of entrepreneurs.
And any one that don't have an entrepreneurial spirit is not welcomed here.
What do you have to bring to the table?
then i think instead of worrying about this a few thousand ppl here, you should start to campaign kicking out those millions and millions unqualified born US citizens out and tell your MNC entrepreneurs making big bucks in Asia back to expoilt middle classes here.. uhmmm...
Our forefathers travelled to the promised land in ships that were full of rats, without food or water. Several of them died while trying to reach here.
Once here on the promised land, we had to fight our way to create a free society that you are dying to be part of. America is land of entrepreneurs.
And any one that don't have an entrepreneurial spirit is not welcomed here.
What do you have to bring to the table?
then i think instead of worrying about this a few thousand ppl here, you should start to campaign kicking out those millions and millions unqualified born US citizens out and tell your MNC entrepreneurs making big bucks in Asia back to expoilt middle classes here.. uhmmm...
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12-20 05:25 PM
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bliss
07-17 07:09 PM
thanks everyone at IV, Zoe Lofgren, AILA, Murthy, Greg, immigration-law and whoever came forward.
It was a great experience being part of both Flower campaign and San Jose Rally.
Sincere thanks and all smiles to all who contributed & helped
Reminds me of just one line : United we stand, divided we fall !!!
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Cheers !!!
It was a great experience being part of both Flower campaign and San Jose Rally.
Sincere thanks and all smiles to all who contributed & helped
Reminds me of just one line : United we stand, divided we fall !!!
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Cheers !!!
rameshk75
03-09 12:24 PM
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sweet_jungle
09-08 02:39 AM
I am aware of the issue. The only thing I can take care of right now is keep track of the revisions, and I am keeping track of them. (Thanks for the headup sweet_jungle)
Is this campaign still on?
I did not see much enthusiasm on this issue.
Do people not want their files to be adjudicated or not?
Is this campaign still on?
I did not see much enthusiasm on this issue.
Do people not want their files to be adjudicated or not?
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gctest
09-16 10:02 AM
God bless you.
Honestly, with a 2004 Pd, I will get my GC in an year at the most.. but you, will never wake up. With your attitude .. you are probably in for 5 years.
Let all the 2001-2005 EB3 get in line before you... that would be fun:D:D
gctest--- you are more like IV Admin patience test.
:D
Are you shocked your thread is closed? We are equally shocked that you are still allowed to post.
Honestly, with a 2004 Pd, I will get my GC in an year at the most.. but you, will never wake up. With your attitude .. you are probably in for 5 years.
Let all the 2001-2005 EB3 get in line before you... that would be fun:D:D
gctest--- you are more like IV Admin patience test.
:D
Are you shocked your thread is closed? We are equally shocked that you are still allowed to post.
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newbie2020
02-28 08:18 AM
We can make it at 9:00 if it helps our friends from West coast.
Sounds reasonable. Newbie2020 and others, does 9:00 PM EST sound ok to you guys ? We can cut down the call to about 45 mins to enable early risers to get to bed.
Sounds reasonable. Newbie2020 and others, does 9:00 PM EST sound ok to you guys ? We can cut down the call to about 45 mins to enable early risers to get to bed.
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realizeit
02-25 11:04 AM
First of all let me thank all of you who responded to this thread positively or negatively. I have a humble request. Please make sure that the comments that you post in this thread are not finger pointers to anyone else in the community. Please provide your positive or negative comments about this idea. Also make sure that your comments are not cynical ones which will just put this idea into the dust bin. If you can't motivate, please do not discourage others from getting some motivation and giving motivation. Without positive energy and a conducive environment, we will not achieve anything. If you have high cynical opinion, please hold that with you - as it will help you as well - because by doing that, you are helping this community to work on an issue with positive energy. If there is some positive outcome of the effort by this community, you too can enjoy the fruit. So, my point is, your biggest help would be keeping quiet. Let�s have a constructive and productive brain storming.
Even after this brain-storming, if our conclusion is negative, we should not give up. We should continue to work on this and if this requires a legislative change, still this may be an easy one as it won�t add any new GC numbers to the existing quota. This just removes the UNCERTAINITY surrounds our life. What I meant was, there won�t be much ammunition that the protectionists and anti-immigrants can gather against this effort.
I can completely understand the user Ganguteli�s frustration. He has a very valid point too, with respect to applying for I-485 when dates are not current. As I quoted earlier �A journey of a thousand miles begins with a small step.�. So, we should continue this effort in small steps instead of a big bang method. In this current economic environment, if our proposal is too big, it could get ignored within no time. Administration will say that, we will do this along with Comprehensive Immigration reform or something like that. We may add a reasonable addition to this proposal to fix the problems of folks like Ganguteli. Something like, if your 140 is approved and 1 year has passed, the person must be able to apply for 485 irrespective of whether his country is retrogressed or not. I am not sure about the legality of all these. That�s where the importance of this community emerges. If we can work together, we can solve all our problems in small steps.
If IV and our community take this as a priority item to work on, I will provide $500.00 as an initial aid to this effort. I could offer more on the way.
An interesting idea to say the least. Out of box suggestion.
However, there are few things, from legal point of view, it needs to overcome. I will post my detailed comments this afternoon.
Once again, this is a great idea!
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Not a legal advice
US citizen of Indian origin
Even after this brain-storming, if our conclusion is negative, we should not give up. We should continue to work on this and if this requires a legislative change, still this may be an easy one as it won�t add any new GC numbers to the existing quota. This just removes the UNCERTAINITY surrounds our life. What I meant was, there won�t be much ammunition that the protectionists and anti-immigrants can gather against this effort.
I can completely understand the user Ganguteli�s frustration. He has a very valid point too, with respect to applying for I-485 when dates are not current. As I quoted earlier �A journey of a thousand miles begins with a small step.�. So, we should continue this effort in small steps instead of a big bang method. In this current economic environment, if our proposal is too big, it could get ignored within no time. Administration will say that, we will do this along with Comprehensive Immigration reform or something like that. We may add a reasonable addition to this proposal to fix the problems of folks like Ganguteli. Something like, if your 140 is approved and 1 year has passed, the person must be able to apply for 485 irrespective of whether his country is retrogressed or not. I am not sure about the legality of all these. That�s where the importance of this community emerges. If we can work together, we can solve all our problems in small steps.
If IV and our community take this as a priority item to work on, I will provide $500.00 as an initial aid to this effort. I could offer more on the way.
An interesting idea to say the least. Out of box suggestion.
However, there are few things, from legal point of view, it needs to overcome. I will post my detailed comments this afternoon.
Once again, this is a great idea!
______________________
Not a legal advice
US citizen of Indian origin
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kcsurfer
04-09 11:19 AM
This is crazy. I hope they do something about it at least for students who have advanced degrees from US colleges. Not because they are smarter, but because they are already here and have contributed a lot of $$ to US schools.
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PlainSpeak
04-16 03:26 PM
Plainspeak...no one here knows everything abt immigration. so its ok that u lost this argument. we are here to share out experiences, enlighten each other, and work for easing EB backlogs. The fact that theres no one in entire IV that supports ur argument should put some sense into you abt this issue.
and for everyone out there countering plain speak, know it will never end. i recently saw the sixth sense. the boy says 'they only believe what they want to believe'!
No one lost or won any argument here. Every side has stated their case. Please go ahead and believe what you want to believe but according to me belief is not something which waxes and wanes according to your supporters.'
Congrats on watching the sixth sense movie. Wow you are a big boy now. Before you start using that movie as an simile for what you are saying here, would you like me to explain what the movie was really about ...........
and for everyone out there countering plain speak, know it will never end. i recently saw the sixth sense. the boy says 'they only believe what they want to believe'!
No one lost or won any argument here. Every side has stated their case. Please go ahead and believe what you want to believe but according to me belief is not something which waxes and wanes according to your supporters.'
Congrats on watching the sixth sense movie. Wow you are a big boy now. Before you start using that movie as an simile for what you are saying here, would you like me to explain what the movie was really about ...........
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jamesbond007
11-11 05:39 PM
Go to the authorities and report her.
H1 is a temporary situation. Your family is permanent. Protect your family.
Do not let the fear of social services coming to check on you from stopping to do the right thing. They have a job to do; they will not take away a child unless they really believe that the child is not being cared for. They do not want to add to the strain of foster care system which is already under stress.
Law enforcement agencies also monitor sites like IV, Rajiv Khanna etc. And they can get a subpoena against IV to get your information if they suspect that a crime has taken place.
Everyone: please please ... You should not only check for the cleanliness and background of the staff (and facility) who take care of your kid. Also make sure that their way of taking care of your kid meets your expectation. Do not make any assumptions. Ask pointed questions and get certain answers.
Also... I feel that there is more to the story than what the OP has said in his one and only posting.
I think he/she already went past the point to think "what will happen to me" when they hired someone knowing that she was not legally eligible to work/provide that service.
If not them reporting that nanny, her next victim will report her. I strongly believe that, if she is used to that way of raising a kid, she will hit other kids in the future. And they will be exposed at that point when the authorities grill her to spill the beans on her previous employers.
I am also afraid that the OP might take matters into his/her own by making an emotional decision; and that would put him in hot water.
chanduv: I read your post about how you hired a nanny based on your parent's monitoring her behaviour around your kid when they were visiting you. I hope that was not the only criteria for you to choose her. Keep in mind that a person's behaviour when they are alone speaks of their true nature. They can behave nice and good when they have company; but do they continue to be the same when there is no adult around them?
Definitely install a nanny cam that you/yourwife can keep checking from work.
Sorry if I sound like I am picking on you Chandu. But when I read your post, I felt that there might be other families who have done the same thing as you did.
H1 is a temporary situation. Your family is permanent. Protect your family.
Do not let the fear of social services coming to check on you from stopping to do the right thing. They have a job to do; they will not take away a child unless they really believe that the child is not being cared for. They do not want to add to the strain of foster care system which is already under stress.
Law enforcement agencies also monitor sites like IV, Rajiv Khanna etc. And they can get a subpoena against IV to get your information if they suspect that a crime has taken place.
Everyone: please please ... You should not only check for the cleanliness and background of the staff (and facility) who take care of your kid. Also make sure that their way of taking care of your kid meets your expectation. Do not make any assumptions. Ask pointed questions and get certain answers.
Also... I feel that there is more to the story than what the OP has said in his one and only posting.
I think he/she already went past the point to think "what will happen to me" when they hired someone knowing that she was not legally eligible to work/provide that service.
If not them reporting that nanny, her next victim will report her. I strongly believe that, if she is used to that way of raising a kid, she will hit other kids in the future. And they will be exposed at that point when the authorities grill her to spill the beans on her previous employers.
I am also afraid that the OP might take matters into his/her own by making an emotional decision; and that would put him in hot water.
chanduv: I read your post about how you hired a nanny based on your parent's monitoring her behaviour around your kid when they were visiting you. I hope that was not the only criteria for you to choose her. Keep in mind that a person's behaviour when they are alone speaks of their true nature. They can behave nice and good when they have company; but do they continue to be the same when there is no adult around them?
Definitely install a nanny cam that you/yourwife can keep checking from work.
Sorry if I sound like I am picking on you Chandu. But when I read your post, I felt that there might be other families who have done the same thing as you did.
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vaishnavilakshmi
07-17 10:01 PM
HI,
THANKS TO IV FOR MAINTAINING ALL OF US BALANCEDLY WITH TIMELY UPDATES WHICH LEAD TO A BIG SUCCESS FINALLY!
Congats all of the applicants who can file for i-485 or i-140 and i-485 concuerrently in this month till 17th august and also wish and hope people's labor approves quickly so that they can also file concurrently!
-Cheers,
-vaishu
THANKS TO IV FOR MAINTAINING ALL OF US BALANCEDLY WITH TIMELY UPDATES WHICH LEAD TO A BIG SUCCESS FINALLY!
Congats all of the applicants who can file for i-485 or i-140 and i-485 concuerrently in this month till 17th august and also wish and hope people's labor approves quickly so that they can also file concurrently!
-Cheers,
-vaishu
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07-17 09:30 PM
Thank you IV for acheiving this.Please IV regularly and update all case status all through the 485 stage.
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03-04 08:40 PM
I will be there at 8CST/9EST
Just a reminder folks for those who are planning on attending the conf call
conf call details : Dial in number 218 339 2626
Access code: 245906
Time: 9:00 PM EST 3/4/2009 Wednesday
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Just a reminder folks for those who are planning on attending the conf call
conf call details : Dial in number 218 339 2626
Access code: 245906
Time: 9:00 PM EST 3/4/2009 Wednesday
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sabhayk
06-02 02:24 PM
The letter actually does not mention all degree requirements have been fulfilled. This left me really upset (I asked the dept to fax it directly to company, so I had not seen it).
It says "XYZ completed all coursework requirements for his PhD in EE at the University ABC, and deposited his thesis on April 11 2007. His degree should then be officially conferred in May 13 2007"
Obviously course + thesis = all degree requirements for PhD, but I wonder if USCIS might question it. The company's attorney (a highly reputable company) okayed the letter and he said denial is unlikely and that they will either approve it or issue an RFE; but based on my readings of other posts I think there is a fair chance that it might be denied.
The irony is that I got a letter from the registrar on April 16, but by that time the attorney had already filed with the weaker letter. I asked him to send the other one when quota was still available but he said it was unnecessary.
Please anyone with similar experience comment.
Well I don't know how it works. If the letter actually goes as a proof to USCIS or it simply stays with the lawyer. I would say, just wait and watch now. USCIS might ask you for more evidence. They would not simply reject it. SO don't lose hope.
It says "XYZ completed all coursework requirements for his PhD in EE at the University ABC, and deposited his thesis on April 11 2007. His degree should then be officially conferred in May 13 2007"
Obviously course + thesis = all degree requirements for PhD, but I wonder if USCIS might question it. The company's attorney (a highly reputable company) okayed the letter and he said denial is unlikely and that they will either approve it or issue an RFE; but based on my readings of other posts I think there is a fair chance that it might be denied.
The irony is that I got a letter from the registrar on April 16, but by that time the attorney had already filed with the weaker letter. I asked him to send the other one when quota was still available but he said it was unnecessary.
Please anyone with similar experience comment.
Well I don't know how it works. If the letter actually goes as a proof to USCIS or it simply stays with the lawyer. I would say, just wait and watch now. USCIS might ask you for more evidence. They would not simply reject it. SO don't lose hope.
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bsbawa10
09-06 08:20 AM
lets start posting on Monday morning.
Over the weekend, people will comment and make constructive suggestions. By Monday, we should have enough material to post.
lets post together. sending a single email will not help
Also I think, people can customize this letter a little bit by elevating individual examples of their own. Please advertise this to all immigrationvoice members if you can.
Once again my appeal to write this to Zoe.
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_119vmrj2gfs
Over the weekend, people will comment and make constructive suggestions. By Monday, we should have enough material to post.
lets post together. sending a single email will not help
Also I think, people can customize this letter a little bit by elevating individual examples of their own. Please advertise this to all immigrationvoice members if you can.
Once again my appeal to write this to Zoe.
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_119vmrj2gfs
mundada
07-10 03:39 PM
Hey...
the law is not an end in itself... it's a means to achieving end.... and hence it can be challenged in the courts...
final point... let us walk through the situation... per quota country limits is removed... now everyone applying for the employment based visa has to wait for 5 years.... so every country immigrant & the country politicians will pressure the US govt. to act... and only then politicians would act!
case in hand: Labor Certifications... Before PERM it took upto 3 years for the labor to be certified and it affected everyone irrespective of the country... So the PERM was introduced.
AC-21 ... before AC-21 everyone was getting affected and hence the AC-21 law..
One may argue otherwise... but the reality is it matters especially if everyone is getting affected... However, we try... the family based visa won't go away... it affects everyone! No surprise that the latin american senators would NOT allow any legal immigration efforts to succeed without their cause being taken as well.
The only way a thing will get done is if we have a mass problem... and if there isn't then as a tactic it is necessary to create one so that the whole problem could be solved. Otherwise everything will be lost in statistics like
1> Only 2% of countries are getting affected.
2> Only IT/electrical/software are getting affected.
3> Out of the affected people only 5% are leaving, overall only 2% are leaving.
4> etc. etc.
Please note the above numbers are my guestimates.. but I hope you got the point. I am ready to bet the day per country cap is removed... within a year something would be done about the whole EB immigration.
The human psychology is to be risk averse that is if something does not affect me then why should I bother myself with it? In other words, unless many people do not get affected, there won't be reform/change/resolution!
FBI check delay is admin procedure so courts could take up the case. But per country quota is law.
Many persons used to say skills need to be basis for selection. But that is not applicable for GC processing. Here there is no selection from multiple candidates. In Labor and I140 they are checking that particular candidate is suitable for that position or not and also no US citizen is available for the job. If not they will reject the candidate. So they are not selecting based on Merrit as no compettion is there for the particular position. So it is just all the eligible persons will get GC. It is similar to all the high school passed candidates will get admission to college if seats are available but not based on marks but based on FIFO basis.
By FIFO based it is discriminatory but still unused other country quota is used in last quarter for India and China. So per country quota impact will be less if CIS uses all the 140K. Also they are not giving any one country preference or quota. So it is not outrageous compared to many other controversial laws. Law in any country is not perfect and even if perfect it will give more benefit to some group.
It is very difficult to win by lawsuit against any law unless that law is outrageous and impacts many persons. So best way is to try for another law to change a law. But just removing per country quota will give very less benefit especially for Eb3. Waiting time will reduce from 7 to 6 years for all countries. If per country quota is removed with recapture bill then waiting time for EB3 may reduce to 1 to 3 years for EB3.
the law is not an end in itself... it's a means to achieving end.... and hence it can be challenged in the courts...
final point... let us walk through the situation... per quota country limits is removed... now everyone applying for the employment based visa has to wait for 5 years.... so every country immigrant & the country politicians will pressure the US govt. to act... and only then politicians would act!
case in hand: Labor Certifications... Before PERM it took upto 3 years for the labor to be certified and it affected everyone irrespective of the country... So the PERM was introduced.
AC-21 ... before AC-21 everyone was getting affected and hence the AC-21 law..
One may argue otherwise... but the reality is it matters especially if everyone is getting affected... However, we try... the family based visa won't go away... it affects everyone! No surprise that the latin american senators would NOT allow any legal immigration efforts to succeed without their cause being taken as well.
The only way a thing will get done is if we have a mass problem... and if there isn't then as a tactic it is necessary to create one so that the whole problem could be solved. Otherwise everything will be lost in statistics like
1> Only 2% of countries are getting affected.
2> Only IT/electrical/software are getting affected.
3> Out of the affected people only 5% are leaving, overall only 2% are leaving.
4> etc. etc.
Please note the above numbers are my guestimates.. but I hope you got the point. I am ready to bet the day per country cap is removed... within a year something would be done about the whole EB immigration.
The human psychology is to be risk averse that is if something does not affect me then why should I bother myself with it? In other words, unless many people do not get affected, there won't be reform/change/resolution!
FBI check delay is admin procedure so courts could take up the case. But per country quota is law.
Many persons used to say skills need to be basis for selection. But that is not applicable for GC processing. Here there is no selection from multiple candidates. In Labor and I140 they are checking that particular candidate is suitable for that position or not and also no US citizen is available for the job. If not they will reject the candidate. So they are not selecting based on Merrit as no compettion is there for the particular position. So it is just all the eligible persons will get GC. It is similar to all the high school passed candidates will get admission to college if seats are available but not based on marks but based on FIFO basis.
By FIFO based it is discriminatory but still unused other country quota is used in last quarter for India and China. So per country quota impact will be less if CIS uses all the 140K. Also they are not giving any one country preference or quota. So it is not outrageous compared to many other controversial laws. Law in any country is not perfect and even if perfect it will give more benefit to some group.
It is very difficult to win by lawsuit against any law unless that law is outrageous and impacts many persons. So best way is to try for another law to change a law. But just removing per country quota will give very less benefit especially for Eb3. Waiting time will reduce from 7 to 6 years for all countries. If per country quota is removed with recapture bill then waiting time for EB3 may reduce to 1 to 3 years for EB3.
WaitingForMyGC
07-17 09:08 PM
Great JOB, IV. You are the best.
