srkamath
07-10 05:43 PM
It may seem like there are more posts by IV members about EB2 than EB3
That does not mean that IV favors or is concerned about EB2 only.
What is IV ? - it is us ... the members .....
There may be more EB2 related posts and predictions / estimates than EB3 because,
1. The EB2 numbers are a little easier to estimate ....
2. Maybe members affected by EB3 retrogression are not posting many predictions / estimates, as it seems like a hopelessly long wait....
3. There are a few members here that are making their plight seem worse by posting, wild guesses or guesstimates that are gloomy (such as 50k EB2 IN each in 2004 and 2005) ........
4. No one has yet posted a good estimate (not a guess or guesstimate) of the EB3 backlog....
5. It takes a lot of time and patience to dig for reliable data......
That does not mean that IV favors or is concerned about EB2 only.
What is IV ? - it is us ... the members .....
There may be more EB2 related posts and predictions / estimates than EB3 because,
1. The EB2 numbers are a little easier to estimate ....
2. Maybe members affected by EB3 retrogression are not posting many predictions / estimates, as it seems like a hopelessly long wait....
3. There are a few members here that are making their plight seem worse by posting, wild guesses or guesstimates that are gloomy (such as 50k EB2 IN each in 2004 and 2005) ........
4. No one has yet posted a good estimate (not a guess or guesstimate) of the EB3 backlog....
5. It takes a lot of time and patience to dig for reliable data......
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anurakt
12-19 11:44 AM
Just contributed 50$ through paypal.
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masti_Gai
02-02 02:30 PM
Rest of the World (ROW):)
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11-19 07:51 PM
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EndlessWait
07-20 11:23 AM
We members of IV focus only for legal immigrants who haven't and will not break the law.
out of status is not illegal if you reenter..
out of status is not illegal if you reenter..
nozerd
04-25 08:11 AM
Yes, You are very much eligible.
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ssreenu
04-14 12:59 PM
The aim of this appeal is not to compare or compete with EB1, PhDs, US MS degree holders or discuss other exotic bills!
There are several hundred EB2 / EB3 folks who have continued to live here for several years (many have crossed 10 years). They are stuck in the infinitely long GC line, for no fault of theirs. It is natural that people who have stayed for long have grown up children (who are not US born) and who need to go to a good college for a good future.
It is almost impossible to pay international fees and it is neither fair no appropriate to break the back of genuine law abiding residents, despite the fact that they have lived for
8 / 10 years and have sincerely paid the taxes due to the government, just because they do not have a GC.
For the "sin" of being Indian/ Chinese born and for the "sin" of not being able to get the GC because the rules favour long term indentured labour, an entire upcoming yonger generation should not be allowed to suffer. This is unfair and discriminatory. If any one of us had been from a country other than India and China, we would have obtained out GCs in 3 / 4 years.
The idea is to have the cases of all genuine, hard working, EB2 / EB3 employees who have honestly lived here and are continuing to process the path ot GC legally, be considered from the human angle, more so from the point of view of the education of the children.
When it comes to illegals, people scream about human values, humanitarian considerations, education of their children, family ties etc etc. What about us, who have followed the rules "to the T" ????
Is following the rules, going through the approval complex web of approval processes, paying taxes and trying to lead sedate and simple lives a sin?
Are we not human beings? May be we are labelled "aliens" but we are certainly not from Mars!
So friends, let us be clear in where we stand and what we are pleading for.
Unless we have the conviction and clarity we cannot make any progess!
Long live the unity of EB 2 / EB3 employees!
May the SUPREME POWER bless IV and the genuine forum members!
I modified your post a little bit and I sent an email to white house, I am not sure how far it will go but I would encourage everyone to send an email to whitehouse, they might look into at least one of the emails if not all:
Contact the White House | The White House (http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact)
There are several thousand employment based greecard applicants who have continued to live in the USA for several years (many have crossed even 10 years). They are stuck in the infinitely long greencard line for no fault of theirs. It is natural that people who have stayed for long have grown up children (who are not US born) and who need to go to a good college for a good future. It is almost impossible to pay international fees and it is neither fair no appropriate to break the back of genuine law abiding residents, despite the fact that they have lived for 8 / 10 years and have sincerely paid the taxes to the US government, just because they do not have a Greencard. For the "sin" of being Indian/ Chinese born and for the "sin" of not being able to get the GC because the rules favour long term indentured labour, an entire upcoming yonger generation should not be allowed to suffer. This is unfair and discriminatory. If any one of us had been from a country other than India and China, we would have obtained our greencards in 3 / 4 years. The idea is to have the cases of all genuine, hard working, EB2 / EB3 applicants who have honestly lived here and are continuing to process the path ot GC legally, be considered from the human angle, more so from the point of view of the education of the children.
When it comes to illegals, people scream about human values, humanitarian considerations, education of their children, family ties etc etc. What about us, who have followed the rules?
Is following immigration rules, going through the complex web of approval processes, paying taxes and trying to lead sedate and simple lives a sin?
Are we not human beings? May be we are labelled "aliens" but we are certainly not from Mars! Please consider to clear the long waiting backlogs of the greencard process.
There are several hundred EB2 / EB3 folks who have continued to live here for several years (many have crossed 10 years). They are stuck in the infinitely long GC line, for no fault of theirs. It is natural that people who have stayed for long have grown up children (who are not US born) and who need to go to a good college for a good future.
It is almost impossible to pay international fees and it is neither fair no appropriate to break the back of genuine law abiding residents, despite the fact that they have lived for
8 / 10 years and have sincerely paid the taxes due to the government, just because they do not have a GC.
For the "sin" of being Indian/ Chinese born and for the "sin" of not being able to get the GC because the rules favour long term indentured labour, an entire upcoming yonger generation should not be allowed to suffer. This is unfair and discriminatory. If any one of us had been from a country other than India and China, we would have obtained out GCs in 3 / 4 years.
The idea is to have the cases of all genuine, hard working, EB2 / EB3 employees who have honestly lived here and are continuing to process the path ot GC legally, be considered from the human angle, more so from the point of view of the education of the children.
When it comes to illegals, people scream about human values, humanitarian considerations, education of their children, family ties etc etc. What about us, who have followed the rules "to the T" ????
Is following the rules, going through the approval complex web of approval processes, paying taxes and trying to lead sedate and simple lives a sin?
Are we not human beings? May be we are labelled "aliens" but we are certainly not from Mars!
So friends, let us be clear in where we stand and what we are pleading for.
Unless we have the conviction and clarity we cannot make any progess!
Long live the unity of EB 2 / EB3 employees!
May the SUPREME POWER bless IV and the genuine forum members!
I modified your post a little bit and I sent an email to white house, I am not sure how far it will go but I would encourage everyone to send an email to whitehouse, they might look into at least one of the emails if not all:
Contact the White House | The White House (http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact)
There are several thousand employment based greecard applicants who have continued to live in the USA for several years (many have crossed even 10 years). They are stuck in the infinitely long greencard line for no fault of theirs. It is natural that people who have stayed for long have grown up children (who are not US born) and who need to go to a good college for a good future. It is almost impossible to pay international fees and it is neither fair no appropriate to break the back of genuine law abiding residents, despite the fact that they have lived for 8 / 10 years and have sincerely paid the taxes to the US government, just because they do not have a Greencard. For the "sin" of being Indian/ Chinese born and for the "sin" of not being able to get the GC because the rules favour long term indentured labour, an entire upcoming yonger generation should not be allowed to suffer. This is unfair and discriminatory. If any one of us had been from a country other than India and China, we would have obtained our greencards in 3 / 4 years. The idea is to have the cases of all genuine, hard working, EB2 / EB3 applicants who have honestly lived here and are continuing to process the path ot GC legally, be considered from the human angle, more so from the point of view of the education of the children.
When it comes to illegals, people scream about human values, humanitarian considerations, education of their children, family ties etc etc. What about us, who have followed the rules?
Is following immigration rules, going through the complex web of approval processes, paying taxes and trying to lead sedate and simple lives a sin?
Are we not human beings? May be we are labelled "aliens" but we are certainly not from Mars! Please consider to clear the long waiting backlogs of the greencard process.
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gauravsh
08-12 03:03 PM
I decided to move to india now. I have I140 cleared and having a permanent job. But enough is enough!
I started looking openings at india 2 weeks ago and most probably will get a offer from a US financial giant having IT shop at bangalore.
I think this is right decision at this time.
Any suggestions/feedback guys?
I started looking openings at india 2 weeks ago and most probably will get a offer from a US financial giant having IT shop at bangalore.
I think this is right decision at this time.
Any suggestions/feedback guys?
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needhelp!
12-03 12:14 PM
If everyone does their part.
We have a goal of 30K by the end of this month. This
is what we need to invest in the omnibus bill Lobbying efforts.
We have a goal of 30K by the end of this month. This
is what we need to invest in the omnibus bill Lobbying efforts.
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belmontboy
04-16 10:18 PM
Oh you will agree that i understand only if i agree with your point of view else you will cal me a person who pretends not to understand.
Where are the million people who say it is not a fraud. I dont see them. All i see is you and your EB2 crowd and what is their count 20 k, 30k ??
A single persons opinion is not a fact but this single person point of view is shared with a bunch of people who are more that 30 k so you dissing me does not make me wrong
Big yawn
You win lady. Be happy now
Where are the million people who say it is not a fraud. I dont see them. All i see is you and your EB2 crowd and what is their count 20 k, 30k ??
A single persons opinion is not a fact but this single person point of view is shared with a bunch of people who are more that 30 k so you dissing me does not make me wrong
Big yawn
You win lady. Be happy now
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mhathi
07-17 07:31 PM
This achievement of IV and the legal immigrant community shows what a small organization can do to move the goliath and change the world.
But we need to know that the war is far from over.
To quote JRR Tolkien:
The Road goes ever On and On,
Down from the door where it began,
Now Far Ahead the Road has Gone,
And I must Follow if I can.
Pursuing it with Eager Feet,
Until it joins some larger way,
Where many paths and errands meet,
And Whither Then, I cannot Say!
GREAT JOB AND AMAZING WORK!!! CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL!!
But we need to know that the war is far from over.
To quote JRR Tolkien:
The Road goes ever On and On,
Down from the door where it began,
Now Far Ahead the Road has Gone,
And I must Follow if I can.
Pursuing it with Eager Feet,
Until it joins some larger way,
Where many paths and errands meet,
And Whither Then, I cannot Say!
GREAT JOB AND AMAZING WORK!!! CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL!!
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AJT
07-17 08:20 PM
Thank you IV! I suggest we should send a Letter of appreciation and Thanks! to Rep. Zoe Lofgren for her support. Besides IV's advocacy efforts her actions and her letter have played a big part in the recent win for our High Skilled Immigration community. I am ready to send her flowers.
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09-14 01:47 PM
And just to add to this, not all actions require money. Some actions require will to solve the problem.
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11-25 01:57 PM
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pappu
12-18 07:15 PM
can we make this thread a sticky on the top..
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harish28
04-05 03:14 PM
Thanks for all the responses and suggestion. All your suggestions mean one thing my filling the H1 this year is near to impossible. well i understand the situatiuon and now i'm in a state to plan my moves.
Firstly can i take my OPT back and continue my current masters?? I sent the forms on say 1st of April..
Sencond, Is this an option that i file my H1 with some firm next year (2008) and after my opt expires join for a Masters/PHD course get a F1 status so that i can stay in the US, then when my H1 comes to act on Oct 2008 can i take that and withdraw from the Masters program and also change from F1 to H1??? Is this possible coz this is what i might plan to do.....
Please help me out. Thanks againg for the responses..
Firstly can i take my OPT back and continue my current masters?? I sent the forms on say 1st of April..
Sencond, Is this an option that i file my H1 with some firm next year (2008) and after my opt expires join for a Masters/PHD course get a F1 status so that i can stay in the US, then when my H1 comes to act on Oct 2008 can i take that and withdraw from the Masters program and also change from F1 to H1??? Is this possible coz this is what i might plan to do.....
Please help me out. Thanks againg for the responses..
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reddymjm
03-09 05:20 PM
Pledged $25, donated $50
Thank u for still being around and supporting us(IV).
Thank u for still being around and supporting us(IV).
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hianupam
02-05 08:28 AM
If the DOS says this is because this what the law establishes:
"The annual per-country limitation of 7% is a cap, meaning visa issuances to any single country may not exceed this figure. This limitation is not a quota to which any particular country is entitled, however. The per-country limitation serves to avoid monopolization of virtually all the visa numbers by applicants from only a few countries.
How do you like if people from a certain country go to India to take all your jobs?
The catch is that you will first have to establish that you can't find an Indian to do that job. A very very hard task I would assume!
"The annual per-country limitation of 7% is a cap, meaning visa issuances to any single country may not exceed this figure. This limitation is not a quota to which any particular country is entitled, however. The per-country limitation serves to avoid monopolization of virtually all the visa numbers by applicants from only a few countries.
How do you like if people from a certain country go to India to take all your jobs?
The catch is that you will first have to establish that you can't find an Indian to do that job. A very very hard task I would assume!
485Mbe4001
07-10 05:09 PM
There are only a handful who are active. EB3's are screwed so bad that they have resigned to fate or comtemplating using AC 21 and reapplying in EB 2. i have tired pointing it out to many that EB 3 as a whole is in the same boat, few care and the July filers are happy in the land of EAD/AP.
Some people like me who really love what they do and dont prefer changing jobs have reached a point where they are begining to think if it is all even worth the wait. You will not find a sleeping giant, rather a depressed giant overrun by a bunch of koolaid drinkers.
Hey you guys - ask not what someone else can do for you but what you can do for someone else...didn't JFK say something like that ;)
You are ABSOLUTELY correct in saying that all the forums mention EB2 and very little attention is shed on EB3. I wonder why! Is it because EB2 recepients are more actively involved on IV? Or because EB3 recepients are quieter? Both these situations lend themselves to the bias towards EB2. And ultimately lead to one thing - more being done for EB2. I am EB2 and believe you me - I'm not complaining.
Sadly though, the number of EB3 applicants is many many times the number of EB2. So, there's something to be said for participation and having your voice heard. It is no wonder then that we as a group are dismal at having our collective voices heard - we don't participate like our lives depended on it. And in this case our entire lives depend on what's going on...
So, instead of bickering and blaming, why don't we awaken the giant that is EB3 India and China and have them participate as well...maybe we'll be able to kill many many birds (country limits, DC rallies, contributions to IV and lobbying activities, phone call campaigns, letter campaigns...) with just one stone....just thinking out loud...that's all...
Any ideas?
Some people like me who really love what they do and dont prefer changing jobs have reached a point where they are begining to think if it is all even worth the wait. You will not find a sleeping giant, rather a depressed giant overrun by a bunch of koolaid drinkers.
Hey you guys - ask not what someone else can do for you but what you can do for someone else...didn't JFK say something like that ;)
You are ABSOLUTELY correct in saying that all the forums mention EB2 and very little attention is shed on EB3. I wonder why! Is it because EB2 recepients are more actively involved on IV? Or because EB3 recepients are quieter? Both these situations lend themselves to the bias towards EB2. And ultimately lead to one thing - more being done for EB2. I am EB2 and believe you me - I'm not complaining.
Sadly though, the number of EB3 applicants is many many times the number of EB2. So, there's something to be said for participation and having your voice heard. It is no wonder then that we as a group are dismal at having our collective voices heard - we don't participate like our lives depended on it. And in this case our entire lives depend on what's going on...
So, instead of bickering and blaming, why don't we awaken the giant that is EB3 India and China and have them participate as well...maybe we'll be able to kill many many birds (country limits, DC rallies, contributions to IV and lobbying activities, phone call campaigns, letter campaigns...) with just one stone....just thinking out loud...that's all...
Any ideas?
katrina
04-24 03:17 PM
As I had mentioned earlier, do not be under the misconception that just because you are working in a stable cash-rich comany and happy with your job, it can't get bad. Your company can move, downsize, close a branch or just fire you....given the current scenario, it will take atleast 5/6 years (if you are lucky and maybe more if you are unfortunate) to get a GC and all these years can go waste by any of the above happening
Here's a story sent to us....thanks for sending it in
My GC process was started in 2001, my labor was approved in 2003 but since my company was closing the branch office where I worked, I had to move to the main office which was in a different state. Due to this my approved labor went down the drain. I moved to the state of the head office, meanwhile my company off-shored a major portion of the development office where I was working early 2005. After much persuasion from me the filed again but I had to either move offshore or take up a 90% travel job with the same company. Now, I travel and am away from my family during the weekdays. I have lived in USA for 6 years - legally paying my taxes, following all the laws and contributing to the society to the best of my abilities. I am currently on H1-B visa extension.
My wife is working for a company on H1-B. Her employer promised in mid-2005 that she would start the GC process for her so that we could have a backup. Till now her GC has not been started. My wife is in a dilemma of whether she should quit her job and join somewhere else. But if she does move to a new company, even they will not start her GC process immediately. Even if they do what is the point because of retrogression?
With the retrogression my GC could take years....sometimes I wonder if the stress, living in constant fear not knowing what is going to happen tomorrow, staying far away from loved ones, all these sacrifices is really worth it when legal workers like me who have contributed to the economy of America seem to have no value in this country.
Ragz4u if the above person process his labor application prior to april 2001 he should be qualified for 245(i).
Here's a story sent to us....thanks for sending it in
My GC process was started in 2001, my labor was approved in 2003 but since my company was closing the branch office where I worked, I had to move to the main office which was in a different state. Due to this my approved labor went down the drain. I moved to the state of the head office, meanwhile my company off-shored a major portion of the development office where I was working early 2005. After much persuasion from me the filed again but I had to either move offshore or take up a 90% travel job with the same company. Now, I travel and am away from my family during the weekdays. I have lived in USA for 6 years - legally paying my taxes, following all the laws and contributing to the society to the best of my abilities. I am currently on H1-B visa extension.
My wife is working for a company on H1-B. Her employer promised in mid-2005 that she would start the GC process for her so that we could have a backup. Till now her GC has not been started. My wife is in a dilemma of whether she should quit her job and join somewhere else. But if she does move to a new company, even they will not start her GC process immediately. Even if they do what is the point because of retrogression?
With the retrogression my GC could take years....sometimes I wonder if the stress, living in constant fear not knowing what is going to happen tomorrow, staying far away from loved ones, all these sacrifices is really worth it when legal workers like me who have contributed to the economy of America seem to have no value in this country.
Ragz4u if the above person process his labor application prior to april 2001 he should be qualified for 245(i).
