calgirl
06-14 12:58 PM
I hadn't heard about the new Memo..
Last I checked, I had namecheck pending too and it was pending for more than 6 months..
I can take up an Infopass to find out if its still pending.
If it is pending for more than 2 yrs, what are the next steps?
(Obviously 485 won't get approved if name check is pending)
Last I checked, I had namecheck pending too and it was pending for more than 6 months..
I can take up an Infopass to find out if its still pending.
If it is pending for more than 2 yrs, what are the next steps?
(Obviously 485 won't get approved if name check is pending)
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zigma
04-19 02:55 PM
Net Income is calculated after expenses (such as administrative and Salaries) have been deducted.
Net Income = Gross Income - Expenses
It is on Net income that the company pays taxes.
A company does not pay anyone from their net income. This is the profit.
Net Income = Gross Income - Expenses
It is on Net income that the company pays taxes.
A company does not pay anyone from their net income. This is the profit.
PresidentO
05-14 12:45 PM
bringing bk the discussion to more serious point. We can all agree that on the surface immigration system here is seems unfair towards Indian, Chinese and Mexicans. Whats the reason behind it? why only three countries which suffers from long waits. Its demand and supply. If there were no country caps, all the visa's will be absorbed by these three countries. Even though it has cost me time and money, i think its the right policy. for a moment imagine there was no country limit, can you imagine for few years to come immigration will be from only these three countries. i think its only fair to limit how many people can come from one specific country.
and one more point, we are never going to get treated with respect and equality, just get used to it. every American knows we left our country to come to his. he is always gonna look down upon us. Immigrants are never treated with love, respect and dignity, no matter which country they go to. Case in point, Bangladeshi and Nepali migrant workers in India. We treat them like dirt back home, so discrimination against immigrants is part of immigration process. hopefully our ABCD offspring's will face less of it :)
Ehh! Perspective. Do you think you can make a case for that?
You asked all of those who are making their case with the US Congress or doing some sort of advocacy to get a life. In other words, in one single sentence, your perspective is that all of us who are working towards improving the system do not have a life. Wow! Did I start off by saying that you dont have a life because you chose to go canada and not India after 6 years of stint in US? NO!. Saying "Get a life" or other catchy phrases is easy. F Y I, hear your ears blared" WE DO HAVE A LIFE". We heard your perspective. Now this is not your evangelizing ground for your perspectives. Damn it! Aren't IV's objectives clear? What harm has IV's objectives caused you? You dont believe them fine. Do what ever you want.
You chose to go to canada because US GC system sucks and you are saying that we are all hypocrites. Got some sense? What are you trying to say? We should all follow your lead and go back to where we came from while you preach one thing and do the quite opposite. Still be a turn coat to your home land and be a boot licker (your own idea of immigrant's not mine ) to canada. Perspective ehh?
You argue that immigrants are treated like dirt. I tell you what, look at the president of United States and say that one more time. As a kid born here out of the main land and raised in the most populous islamic country in the world, he went on to become the president of united states. You are one of those who do not want to become the change you want to see. you just want others and system to change and you will take that change. Go figure Mr Slime. Oh B T W there is no one such as American, except for the native american. You showed your 10 fingers in your mouth with your basic lack of understanding about the country and how it formed.
>>> If there were no country caps, all the visa's will be absorbed by these three countries. Even though it has cost me time and money, i think its the right policy. y. for a moment imagine there was no country limit, can you imagine for few years to come immigration will be from only these three countries. i think its only fair to limit how many people can come from one specific country. <<<
you argue that three countries will dominate immigration. how ever you dont point out the fact or cleverly ignore that all these people were not limited by the system through which they enter but limited by the system only after they enter. Hey we, those from those three countries, are already here. lets implement the country caps through out the high skilled immigration or get rid of them. Enough of your disguise as some one who is logically and rationally for country caps. There is no rationale or logic what so ever in your argument. Perspective. Ehhh! forget that word.
and one more point, we are never going to get treated with respect and equality, just get used to it. every American knows we left our country to come to his. he is always gonna look down upon us. Immigrants are never treated with love, respect and dignity, no matter which country they go to. Case in point, Bangladeshi and Nepali migrant workers in India. We treat them like dirt back home, so discrimination against immigrants is part of immigration process. hopefully our ABCD offspring's will face less of it :)
Ehh! Perspective. Do you think you can make a case for that?
You asked all of those who are making their case with the US Congress or doing some sort of advocacy to get a life. In other words, in one single sentence, your perspective is that all of us who are working towards improving the system do not have a life. Wow! Did I start off by saying that you dont have a life because you chose to go canada and not India after 6 years of stint in US? NO!. Saying "Get a life" or other catchy phrases is easy. F Y I, hear your ears blared" WE DO HAVE A LIFE". We heard your perspective. Now this is not your evangelizing ground for your perspectives. Damn it! Aren't IV's objectives clear? What harm has IV's objectives caused you? You dont believe them fine. Do what ever you want.
You chose to go to canada because US GC system sucks and you are saying that we are all hypocrites. Got some sense? What are you trying to say? We should all follow your lead and go back to where we came from while you preach one thing and do the quite opposite. Still be a turn coat to your home land and be a boot licker (your own idea of immigrant's not mine ) to canada. Perspective ehh?
You argue that immigrants are treated like dirt. I tell you what, look at the president of United States and say that one more time. As a kid born here out of the main land and raised in the most populous islamic country in the world, he went on to become the president of united states. You are one of those who do not want to become the change you want to see. you just want others and system to change and you will take that change. Go figure Mr Slime. Oh B T W there is no one such as American, except for the native american. You showed your 10 fingers in your mouth with your basic lack of understanding about the country and how it formed.
>>> If there were no country caps, all the visa's will be absorbed by these three countries. Even though it has cost me time and money, i think its the right policy. y. for a moment imagine there was no country limit, can you imagine for few years to come immigration will be from only these three countries. i think its only fair to limit how many people can come from one specific country. <<<
you argue that three countries will dominate immigration. how ever you dont point out the fact or cleverly ignore that all these people were not limited by the system through which they enter but limited by the system only after they enter. Hey we, those from those three countries, are already here. lets implement the country caps through out the high skilled immigration or get rid of them. Enough of your disguise as some one who is logically and rationally for country caps. There is no rationale or logic what so ever in your argument. Perspective. Ehhh! forget that word.
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ilwaiting
01-30 07:51 AM
Atleast this new rule would help speed up that process. 45 days is certaily achievable. attorney must do a good job while asking for the documents upfront.
I dont think companies are really geared to file for 140 within 45 days of labor approval.
Most of the companies take 4-6 weeks to just send the documents the lawyers request for filing 140. Then the lawyers, most likely forget something and request more documents. It takes another 2 weeks for company to send those.
All in all, on average I think companies need 3 months after approved labor to be ready to Fedex that 140 petition. No malicious intent on the part of employer, its just how things are. 45 days is going to make things difficult for many companies and many of the lazy, slow, procrastinating law firms.
I dont think companies are really geared to file for 140 within 45 days of labor approval.
Most of the companies take 4-6 weeks to just send the documents the lawyers request for filing 140. Then the lawyers, most likely forget something and request more documents. It takes another 2 weeks for company to send those.
All in all, on average I think companies need 3 months after approved labor to be ready to Fedex that 140 petition. No malicious intent on the part of employer, its just how things are. 45 days is going to make things difficult for many companies and many of the lazy, slow, procrastinating law firms.
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Green.Tech
06-18 11:58 AM
Keep calling, folks. We are making headway. Don't quit, not now, not ever!
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02-01 06:45 AM
Hello,
If your parents have bad health, then its a risky trip anyways .. but if they are in a reasonable health, then most insurance plans (except the super cheap ones) should be fine to cover any emergencies .... I have used k v rao insurance couple of times (but never had to make a claim) ...
There are always bad stories about claim process, but that is just the nature of Insurance industry (had such experiences with my employer insurance as well ... despite it being a Fortune100 company with generous benefits)... so choose your poison! :)
If your parents have bad health, then its a risky trip anyways .. but if they are in a reasonable health, then most insurance plans (except the super cheap ones) should be fine to cover any emergencies .... I have used k v rao insurance couple of times (but never had to make a claim) ...
There are always bad stories about claim process, but that is just the nature of Insurance industry (had such experiences with my employer insurance as well ... despite it being a Fortune100 company with generous benefits)... so choose your poison! :)
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add78
04-27 03:46 PM
Below is the text for Waivers.. My understanding is that if end Client gives a letter to DOL stating that they don't layoffs due to this H1B and it is a temp. labor requirement etc.. It is still harsh considering anti-immigration climate.. What is feared asked in a Visa interview will be asked by DOL for extensions. So, H1B can't be on an auto-pilot mode..
``(I) the employer with whom the H-1B nonimmigrant would be placed has not displaced, and does not intend to displace, a United States worker employed by the employer within the period beginning 180 days before and ending 180 days after the date of the placement of the nonimmigrant with the employer;
``(II) the H-1B nonimmigrant will not be controlled and supervised principally by the employer with whom the H-1B nonimmigrant would be placed; and
``(III) the placement of the H-1B nonimmigrant is not essentially an arrangement to provide labor for hire for the employer with whom the H-1B nonimmigrant will be placed.
the big consulting companies (IBM/Deloitte/Accenture et al) will try to get a waiver by showing the 3 conditions above - however, they need to do so every time a current assignment for their H1B employer ends and they need to place them on a new assignment / client. At that time they need to go through the waiver again, to determine whether the end client has had any layoffs in the last 180 days.
In short this bill is a disaster for ALL CONSULTING companies that have a large H1B population.
``(I) the employer with whom the H-1B nonimmigrant would be placed has not displaced, and does not intend to displace, a United States worker employed by the employer within the period beginning 180 days before and ending 180 days after the date of the placement of the nonimmigrant with the employer;
``(II) the H-1B nonimmigrant will not be controlled and supervised principally by the employer with whom the H-1B nonimmigrant would be placed; and
``(III) the placement of the H-1B nonimmigrant is not essentially an arrangement to provide labor for hire for the employer with whom the H-1B nonimmigrant will be placed.
the big consulting companies (IBM/Deloitte/Accenture et al) will try to get a waiver by showing the 3 conditions above - however, they need to do so every time a current assignment for their H1B employer ends and they need to place them on a new assignment / client. At that time they need to go through the waiver again, to determine whether the end client has had any layoffs in the last 180 days.
In short this bill is a disaster for ALL CONSULTING companies that have a large H1B population.
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tnite
10-24 01:39 PM
I'm just keen to find out what's going on, and to get input on whether the I-129 being revoked is anything that can affect the I-140/I-485. I doubt it but would like to be sure. And to share what's going on in my case with others where it may have more of an impact if their H-1B ends up being revoked.
Anyway, I doubt if it's anything that can't be fixed; my company is very reputable and our attorneys are already engaged.
You had mentioned in your previous post that your EB2 green card was approved in June 2007or did you mean EAD?
Am I missing something?
Anyway, I doubt if it's anything that can't be fixed; my company is very reputable and our attorneys are already engaged.
You had mentioned in your previous post that your EB2 green card was approved in June 2007or did you mean EAD?
Am I missing something?
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Bradman
11-09 09:54 AM
I highly doubt that the White called Mr. Bradman abou this name check. white house has other things to worry about that then simply getting ones name check cleared. White has nothing to do with name checks. If it did, my mothers case would have been cleard a long time ago. She is stuck for the past 3 years. She is over 60. i contacted the white house last year. Not even a Thanks for writing form them.
So if it is true, then Bradman congrats, but if you are just pulling our leg, then not a good thing.
What you think and suggest is your problem. I know what all i had go through to be where I am today. I did a receive a call on either occasion from the Presidents office. As a matter of fact when I wrote to the FL and the Senators office then too I received calls.
Keep you subject very precise and on the top of envelop remember to mention "Immigration Assistance". Please use ordinary mail 41 cents stamp and wait and watch.
All the best !!!!
So if it is true, then Bradman congrats, but if you are just pulling our leg, then not a good thing.
What you think and suggest is your problem. I know what all i had go through to be where I am today. I did a receive a call on either occasion from the Presidents office. As a matter of fact when I wrote to the FL and the Senators office then too I received calls.
Keep you subject very precise and on the top of envelop remember to mention "Immigration Assistance". Please use ordinary mail 41 cents stamp and wait and watch.
All the best !!!!
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Bloomington
12-13 12:09 PM
will you be a member? I would propose we charge a mere $25 fee for registering and then monthly contribution of say $25. Then we run special funding drives for lobbying when ever required. Will you be a paid member to come out of GC mess?
Please participate in the poll.
No...Because this is FOREM a please where people express their opinion ….if you commercialize .will loss purpose. Not a good idea.
Please participate in the poll.
No...Because this is FOREM a please where people express their opinion ….if you commercialize .will loss purpose. Not a good idea.
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whoever
02-07 07:32 AM
I wonder why EB 3 ROW is stuck at Aug 02. I guess it should move faster.
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Macaca
11-07 02:27 PM
The following are clear cut abuses.
I want to give some fraud and abuse examples. Unfortunately, there are some bad apples in the H-1B visa program.
In 2005, a man was charged with fraud and misuse of visas, money laundering, and mail fraud for his participation in a multistate scam to smuggle Indian and Pakistani nationals into the United States with fraudulently obtained H-1B visas. The man created fictitious companies, often renting only a cubicle simply to have a mailing address. He fabricated tax returns and submitted over 1,000 false visa petitions.
Another man pled guilty last August to charges of fraud and conspiracy. This man and an attorney charged foreign nationals thousands of dollars to fraudulently obtain H-1B visas. He provided false documents to substantiate their H-1B petitions.
Also, an Indian outsourcing company was fined by DOL for paying lower wages. Another example of clear cut fraud.
I am also anxiously awaiting this report.
The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service is also worried about fraud in the program. This agency's investigative arm, that subdivision called the Fraud Detection and National Security unit, is doing a fraud assessment of the H-1B and L visa programs. I asked the unit to brief my staff on their work, and they reported they are not finished with analyzing the data. Senator Collins of Maine and I put the agency on notice that we are anxiously awaiting this report so we may continue our quest to reform the program appropriately.
The questions are
What is a fraud?
How will yo detect a fraud?
How many companies are commiting fraud?
How many workers are involved in fraud?
Remember, they are not interested in benefit for worker. That is, something that is a problem for worker (kind of issues mentioned in this thread) are not of interest to them.
I want to give some fraud and abuse examples. Unfortunately, there are some bad apples in the H-1B visa program.
In 2005, a man was charged with fraud and misuse of visas, money laundering, and mail fraud for his participation in a multistate scam to smuggle Indian and Pakistani nationals into the United States with fraudulently obtained H-1B visas. The man created fictitious companies, often renting only a cubicle simply to have a mailing address. He fabricated tax returns and submitted over 1,000 false visa petitions.
Another man pled guilty last August to charges of fraud and conspiracy. This man and an attorney charged foreign nationals thousands of dollars to fraudulently obtain H-1B visas. He provided false documents to substantiate their H-1B petitions.
Also, an Indian outsourcing company was fined by DOL for paying lower wages. Another example of clear cut fraud.
I am also anxiously awaiting this report.
The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service is also worried about fraud in the program. This agency's investigative arm, that subdivision called the Fraud Detection and National Security unit, is doing a fraud assessment of the H-1B and L visa programs. I asked the unit to brief my staff on their work, and they reported they are not finished with analyzing the data. Senator Collins of Maine and I put the agency on notice that we are anxiously awaiting this report so we may continue our quest to reform the program appropriately.
The questions are
What is a fraud?
How will yo detect a fraud?
How many companies are commiting fraud?
How many workers are involved in fraud?
Remember, they are not interested in benefit for worker. That is, something that is a problem for worker (kind of issues mentioned in this thread) are not of interest to them.
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sc3
09-24 12:42 PM
Well, you did not give your easy example, nothing about affirmative action, nothing about representation or overwhelmed by Indian and Chinese thing, and absolutely nothing about preferential treatment. So in-effect, you totally skipped the entire debate, I guess my trick played well, you are now overwhelmed by Frank Caliendo, just as you are overwhelmed by Indian or Chinese.
And while you "hinted" that we are all equals, you did not say - if we are all equals, then why should there be PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT for one group of people over others, unless someone is still practicing APARTHEID. Last time I checked, practicing apartheid is a crime in US and it can land you in jail, not sure if you knew that.
And while you continue to apply for your green card, you are still charging "India" for that because as per you, your country of charge-ability is India, right? If you are actually from India, have you ever heard of Ron Hira. If not, check it out, you will know who he is. You are Ron Hira of country limits, if you know what that means.
Hope you liked the stand-up comedy this time. Oh Frank is just too good. I mean this guy could make you laugh when actually you should be crying, you know what I mean.
Sanju, I did not promise to give you any more examples - easy or otherwise. People have made up their minds, and arguments against the stand devolves into character assassination. While I myself dont care about the dots, and seeing that the discussion started off, at least in part, about unscrupulous distribution of dots, I find it very ironic that I am getting insulting words thrown at me. Either these people cant understand irony, or they really are just learned "angootha-chap", or they are addicted to red-doting people (pretty much bringing the prophecy of the original poster true).
Ron Hira? I dont know much about him, just saw that he wrote a book about outsourcing, am I Ron Hira of per country limits? maybe I am. But, you assumed that I like the per country limits. I hate a lot of things but I live with it. There are lot of things that we hate but are there to help regulate the environment (among others).
The point I am trying to make is that such an action will not be "fair" to people who are in queue (who rely on the 7% cutoff to get their GCs). If the congress makes changes to the rule, then people will have to live with it (fair or otherwise)... by the way, most rules are not made to be fair to everyone. But the thing is such action will have a negative impact on ROW, and it is a pity that many ROW dont realize it. They seem to blindly following IVs call of action. There is some saying about blind faith that escapes me at the moment, but the bottom line is that blind faith is a dangerous thing.
So am I escaping form expounding on my thoughts. Yes, and No. I think I have made succinct argument (based on the laws) as to why things are as such, so I dont see the need to argue further.
And while you "hinted" that we are all equals, you did not say - if we are all equals, then why should there be PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT for one group of people over others, unless someone is still practicing APARTHEID. Last time I checked, practicing apartheid is a crime in US and it can land you in jail, not sure if you knew that.
And while you continue to apply for your green card, you are still charging "India" for that because as per you, your country of charge-ability is India, right? If you are actually from India, have you ever heard of Ron Hira. If not, check it out, you will know who he is. You are Ron Hira of country limits, if you know what that means.
Hope you liked the stand-up comedy this time. Oh Frank is just too good. I mean this guy could make you laugh when actually you should be crying, you know what I mean.
Sanju, I did not promise to give you any more examples - easy or otherwise. People have made up their minds, and arguments against the stand devolves into character assassination. While I myself dont care about the dots, and seeing that the discussion started off, at least in part, about unscrupulous distribution of dots, I find it very ironic that I am getting insulting words thrown at me. Either these people cant understand irony, or they really are just learned "angootha-chap", or they are addicted to red-doting people (pretty much bringing the prophecy of the original poster true).
Ron Hira? I dont know much about him, just saw that he wrote a book about outsourcing, am I Ron Hira of per country limits? maybe I am. But, you assumed that I like the per country limits. I hate a lot of things but I live with it. There are lot of things that we hate but are there to help regulate the environment (among others).
The point I am trying to make is that such an action will not be "fair" to people who are in queue (who rely on the 7% cutoff to get their GCs). If the congress makes changes to the rule, then people will have to live with it (fair or otherwise)... by the way, most rules are not made to be fair to everyone. But the thing is such action will have a negative impact on ROW, and it is a pity that many ROW dont realize it. They seem to blindly following IVs call of action. There is some saying about blind faith that escapes me at the moment, but the bottom line is that blind faith is a dangerous thing.
So am I escaping form expounding on my thoughts. Yes, and No. I think I have made succinct argument (based on the laws) as to why things are as such, so I dont see the need to argue further.
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06-22 07:59 PM
and that, my friend, is just childish behavior =)
Battle finished a few days ago. People have a right to want to kow the winner, and to get "excited". I'd kinda like to know also ;).
Battle finished a few days ago. People have a right to want to kow the winner, and to get "excited". I'd kinda like to know also ;).
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permfiling
04-29 09:17 PM
Insane list ...I lost 50% of my head hair staying in US since last 10 yrs and now loose the rest doing the book keeping...no wonder stone age was fun ;-)
Thanks for this info, but I am a million miles away from ever thinking about these.
Just out of curiosity, why "shred" photocopies, except maybe for better document management and not drowning in paper? :D
Is there some ramification towards citizenship?
btw, Congrats on GC. :cool:
LT
Thanks for this info, but I am a million miles away from ever thinking about these.
Just out of curiosity, why "shred" photocopies, except maybe for better document management and not drowning in paper? :D
Is there some ramification towards citizenship?
btw, Congrats on GC. :cool:
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mpadapa
09-17 11:05 AM
The lawmakers have been working hard, they just passed the energy bill late last night. Give them a break..
The meeting won't start until the House session is over, they are currently voting on a bill in the House
The proceedings have not started yet. I see people moving in and out.
Reminds me of the Govt Offices in India. Doesnt look much different here !!!
And they are probably gonna take a break at 12 for lunch .. lets c!!!
The meeting won't start until the House session is over, they are currently voting on a bill in the House
The proceedings have not started yet. I see people moving in and out.
Reminds me of the Govt Offices in India. Doesnt look much different here !!!
And they are probably gonna take a break at 12 for lunch .. lets c!!!
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priderock
05-24 02:01 PM
Very good times for outsourcing even more !!! The Indian Tech companies must be VERY happy.
Faulty Immigration Policy (FIP) : I am mighty FIP, I am going to decrease the H1 quota.
Industry : Okay , well, what can I do :( , Well !! If worker can't come to work.... How about send the work to the worker ?? :) ...Outsource !!!
Indian IT companies (IIC): We are glad to do the work. We have enough resources to ramp up and ramp down. we can send people on L1
Things are going well for a while ....
FIP : How dare they use L1s, I will make it very difficult to them. From now on L1 is tightened...Hehehehehe:D
IIC: Okay I need people to go to US for knowledge transfer, understand the requirements and implement S/W , let me apply H1s enmasse.... else I may not get a chance..
FIP : Errr , They are using all my H1s , let me tighten H1s even more, How about I charge $10000 for each person coming in. This must teach them (IICs and those out sourcing) a lesson.
Industry : I cant find any body here, and it is expensive even to continue my employees who are on H1. I need to off shore more work. Hey IIC , I need some one here for understanding my requirements.
IIC: Sorry sir, I cant send any one to US because it costs me $10K to begin with , and even if you are willing to pay that , there are no visas to any one. Gates of US are closed.
Industry: Okay I will send Bill, Dave , Frank and Amy who are our business analysts and managers to India for a month, they will walk you through the requirements and come back again for testing.
IIC: Okay , Indian Govt will be glad to give them visas.
India : Good, Instead of my sons going to US and spend all their money there on cars, houses etc, they will earn here and spend here. Other industries are happy too :)
Many years later .....
Bill : Amy, we should get there quickly , there are big lines at Indian consulate. Hope we can get in today.
....................
............
Hey, priderock ...getup ...its time to go to office.
Priderock : Was I dreaming ? Good dream though :)
Faulty Immigration Policy (FIP) : I am mighty FIP, I am going to decrease the H1 quota.
Industry : Okay , well, what can I do :( , Well !! If worker can't come to work.... How about send the work to the worker ?? :) ...Outsource !!!
Indian IT companies (IIC): We are glad to do the work. We have enough resources to ramp up and ramp down. we can send people on L1
Things are going well for a while ....
FIP : How dare they use L1s, I will make it very difficult to them. From now on L1 is tightened...Hehehehehe:D
IIC: Okay I need people to go to US for knowledge transfer, understand the requirements and implement S/W , let me apply H1s enmasse.... else I may not get a chance..
FIP : Errr , They are using all my H1s , let me tighten H1s even more, How about I charge $10000 for each person coming in. This must teach them (IICs and those out sourcing) a lesson.
Industry : I cant find any body here, and it is expensive even to continue my employees who are on H1. I need to off shore more work. Hey IIC , I need some one here for understanding my requirements.
IIC: Sorry sir, I cant send any one to US because it costs me $10K to begin with , and even if you are willing to pay that , there are no visas to any one. Gates of US are closed.
Industry: Okay I will send Bill, Dave , Frank and Amy who are our business analysts and managers to India for a month, they will walk you through the requirements and come back again for testing.
IIC: Okay , Indian Govt will be glad to give them visas.
India : Good, Instead of my sons going to US and spend all their money there on cars, houses etc, they will earn here and spend here. Other industries are happy too :)
Many years later .....
Bill : Amy, we should get there quickly , there are big lines at Indian consulate. Hope we can get in today.
....................
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Hey, priderock ...getup ...its time to go to office.
Priderock : Was I dreaming ? Good dream though :)
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kumarc123
01-10 09:39 AM
I have been a IV member since 2006 . I have seen the ups/downs . donated money , sent letters , attended rallies and done whatever has been been proposed . But I see that many senior members who had the drive to motivate people are not sending or being part of any messages or threads at all and that is exactly why the movement seems to be losing steam .
The standard response that I see to any question is "have you donated money ? " . "Don't ask for anything till you have donated. " this is followed by some some red dots which normally works to silence the questions. People will be willing to donate when they believe in the movement . I remember we collected $ 30,000 in 1 month before the rally there was huge thread with all the donations . People were charged up and the money came up automatically . I am willing to donate but to be brutally honest I do not see the same level of motivation as was there in 2006 / 2007 days .Please use this as a wakeup call and not as reason to vent your frustration on me .
There are many senior members who I do not even see any more . Members joining in late 2007 or early 2008 will not know any of these guys .
Aman Kapoor . He is the founder of IV . I have not seen his messages since the past 3 years almost . Where is he ? Is it too much for him to send a greeting in New years eve motivating the members ? It takes just 2 minutes .
Mark Bartosik :- He was supposed to the spokesperson for IV .The guy with the MasterCard sign for immigration . I have not seen him for quite some time now
Where are the other senior leaders like
a) Walden Pond
b) There was a this British Girl from San Jose ( had a handle which had name like Rose or something )
c) Niloufer Bustani from Dallas. I see her once in a while but very sparingly .
The others even I have forgotten completely.
The only leadership/core that I see is Pappu and no one else . If you have a country where the prime minister shows his face only once in 4 years , how are the people supposed to believe in that movement ? Please don't reply with a message saying what have I done or why can't I contribute money ? I have done that I am looking for leadership to show us the way and motivate us . All campaigns don't need money donations( Letters , calls , faxes etc ) . We could start with that and then drum up support and momentum and then the money will start flowing in automatically . There has to be a synchronized campaign organized by the leadership and all I see is everybody putting their eggs in the basket called spillover.
Precisely,
they ask me for monthly contributions and I ask them to hold something big, a rally or something first, as I was not July2007 filer. That's why I am stopping to come here now. To ask for contributions, IV must hold something big,
The standard response that I see to any question is "have you donated money ? " . "Don't ask for anything till you have donated. " this is followed by some some red dots which normally works to silence the questions. People will be willing to donate when they believe in the movement . I remember we collected $ 30,000 in 1 month before the rally there was huge thread with all the donations . People were charged up and the money came up automatically . I am willing to donate but to be brutally honest I do not see the same level of motivation as was there in 2006 / 2007 days .Please use this as a wakeup call and not as reason to vent your frustration on me .
There are many senior members who I do not even see any more . Members joining in late 2007 or early 2008 will not know any of these guys .
Aman Kapoor . He is the founder of IV . I have not seen his messages since the past 3 years almost . Where is he ? Is it too much for him to send a greeting in New years eve motivating the members ? It takes just 2 minutes .
Mark Bartosik :- He was supposed to the spokesperson for IV .The guy with the MasterCard sign for immigration . I have not seen him for quite some time now
Where are the other senior leaders like
a) Walden Pond
b) There was a this British Girl from San Jose ( had a handle which had name like Rose or something )
c) Niloufer Bustani from Dallas. I see her once in a while but very sparingly .
The others even I have forgotten completely.
The only leadership/core that I see is Pappu and no one else . If you have a country where the prime minister shows his face only once in 4 years , how are the people supposed to believe in that movement ? Please don't reply with a message saying what have I done or why can't I contribute money ? I have done that I am looking for leadership to show us the way and motivate us . All campaigns don't need money donations( Letters , calls , faxes etc ) . We could start with that and then drum up support and momentum and then the money will start flowing in automatically . There has to be a synchronized campaign organized by the leadership and all I see is everybody putting their eggs in the basket called spillover.
Precisely,
they ask me for monthly contributions and I ask them to hold something big, a rally or something first, as I was not July2007 filer. That's why I am stopping to come here now. To ask for contributions, IV must hold something big,
Jaime
12-07 03:51 PM
bump
walking_dude
03-13 12:49 PM
I, for one, am unable to join a state chapter, because , the nearest chapter is 400 miles and 2 states away. What good would it do to me to join something that I can never be part of. I wanted to start a state chapter here in my place, but I couldnt find any useful resources on how to do it. May be eb3_nepa has some reasons like it.
I was also unable to find a state chapter just a few months back. So I started one. Now we have around 60 members. Someone needs to take the initiative and set the ball rolling. That someone can be you.
Here's an excellent resource on how to start a state chapter.
http://anilgeneral.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-to-start-and-maintain-state-chapter.html
The Admin Fixes letter campaign was a good initiative. But, the target date got moved twice, and now I dont even know when the end date is.
The end date is the date when the fixes get passed.
IV moved the target dates to get more letters from members. It paid back richly as thousands more letters were got through the hardwork of volunteers who collected these letters. As pointed by paskal work is in progress on the campaign and more stuff is getting done.
May be IV should be a top-down organization. Any organization as big as IV would probably be better served with a Top Team. That team could probably elected by the community. I am confident, that most of our members wouldnt even mind spending a few extra bucks to pay a honarary amount to this team for their efforts and time. Then there will be more structure and accountability and action going on around here.
If you really think you can get someone like Aman Kapoor - who visited DC 18 times last year spending 60k of his personal money - by paying a few extra bucks, be my guest!
IV is a volunteer organization. Its strength is volunteers who believe in the cause and ready to spend their efforts and money for a cause that benefits not only them, but also the slackers who do nothing and sit on the forum badmouthing/belittling those who do.
A paid person will not do all that for you for the few extra bucks you are ready to pay.
I came to know about IV pretty late. When I did learn about IV and joined IV, I was a very enthusiastic participant. Of late, I do believe IV is fading away. I dont see so many activities going on around here. Like eb3_nepa and few others said, IV is right now becoming just another Immigration portal. It is starting to lose its identity.
After doing all the hard work to gather a mass or like minded people, it will be shameful, if IV drifts away from its stated aim. So, may be it is time for every member, including core members like you to refect upon things and come up with ways to make this organization more transparent and more accessible for people like me.
Don't judge IV by what's posted on the forum. IV is more than a forum. A lot of action happens off the forum (in fact most of it). Like Morpheus told Neo in Matrix, 'No one can tell you what it is. You need to experience it yourself'. Participating actively in IV activities through state chapters is the only way to know all IV activities happening.
It will never get posted here in a forum full of anti-immigrant trolls. IV is transparent in its finances as it gets audited as a tax-exempt organization and held accountable to its expenses. Transparency is bi-directional. IV expects its members seeking updates to be transparent too (by providing complete contact details and valid E-mail ids). When a large number of members aren't transparent themselves, asking IV to be transparent is a moot point.
Like Waldenpond said, it is probably not wise to list all the items going on in the portal. The work around to that would be, we can add another membership type which is more restrictive. This membership group will have only members whose identities have been verified. Once this group is created, IV can post all the happenings accessible to them. This will help people like me who are unable to be part of any state chapter to know what is happening at IV. Keep our sprits high.
Sorry to be blunt here. IVs aim is to motivate members to participate in the activities and achieve the goal. Keeping spirits high for everyone is not a part of the deal.
Creation of such a value-added paid membership was discussed earlier. Most of the IV members don't want it. So it didn't happen.
I was also unable to find a state chapter just a few months back. So I started one. Now we have around 60 members. Someone needs to take the initiative and set the ball rolling. That someone can be you.
Here's an excellent resource on how to start a state chapter.
http://anilgeneral.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-to-start-and-maintain-state-chapter.html
The Admin Fixes letter campaign was a good initiative. But, the target date got moved twice, and now I dont even know when the end date is.
The end date is the date when the fixes get passed.
IV moved the target dates to get more letters from members. It paid back richly as thousands more letters were got through the hardwork of volunteers who collected these letters. As pointed by paskal work is in progress on the campaign and more stuff is getting done.
May be IV should be a top-down organization. Any organization as big as IV would probably be better served with a Top Team. That team could probably elected by the community. I am confident, that most of our members wouldnt even mind spending a few extra bucks to pay a honarary amount to this team for their efforts and time. Then there will be more structure and accountability and action going on around here.
If you really think you can get someone like Aman Kapoor - who visited DC 18 times last year spending 60k of his personal money - by paying a few extra bucks, be my guest!
IV is a volunteer organization. Its strength is volunteers who believe in the cause and ready to spend their efforts and money for a cause that benefits not only them, but also the slackers who do nothing and sit on the forum badmouthing/belittling those who do.
A paid person will not do all that for you for the few extra bucks you are ready to pay.
I came to know about IV pretty late. When I did learn about IV and joined IV, I was a very enthusiastic participant. Of late, I do believe IV is fading away. I dont see so many activities going on around here. Like eb3_nepa and few others said, IV is right now becoming just another Immigration portal. It is starting to lose its identity.
After doing all the hard work to gather a mass or like minded people, it will be shameful, if IV drifts away from its stated aim. So, may be it is time for every member, including core members like you to refect upon things and come up with ways to make this organization more transparent and more accessible for people like me.
Don't judge IV by what's posted on the forum. IV is more than a forum. A lot of action happens off the forum (in fact most of it). Like Morpheus told Neo in Matrix, 'No one can tell you what it is. You need to experience it yourself'. Participating actively in IV activities through state chapters is the only way to know all IV activities happening.
It will never get posted here in a forum full of anti-immigrant trolls. IV is transparent in its finances as it gets audited as a tax-exempt organization and held accountable to its expenses. Transparency is bi-directional. IV expects its members seeking updates to be transparent too (by providing complete contact details and valid E-mail ids). When a large number of members aren't transparent themselves, asking IV to be transparent is a moot point.
Like Waldenpond said, it is probably not wise to list all the items going on in the portal. The work around to that would be, we can add another membership type which is more restrictive. This membership group will have only members whose identities have been verified. Once this group is created, IV can post all the happenings accessible to them. This will help people like me who are unable to be part of any state chapter to know what is happening at IV. Keep our sprits high.
Sorry to be blunt here. IVs aim is to motivate members to participate in the activities and achieve the goal. Keeping spirits high for everyone is not a part of the deal.
Creation of such a value-added paid membership was discussed earlier. Most of the IV members don't want it. So it didn't happen.
