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  • gimme_GC2006
    08-25 02:38 PM
    I guess My interview didn't go as expected.

    1) I reached the office an hour early.
    2) After waiting,they did security check and let us in
    3) Then the lady who was assigned my case, came and took us into her room
    4) Oath, etc
    5) She then started asking for Birth cert, Marriage Cert, kids birth certi, 140 approval copy.
    6) Then she pulled a file (which was labelled DOS Visa bulletins) and spent around 15 mins on Oct 2007 bulletin.
    7) Then asked us who filed your 485..you did your self or your employer did..we said employer.
    8) Then she said, something is not right..per Oct 2007 bulleting Visa's are unavailable so yours was not filed properly.
    9) Then I said, ours was filed in Aug 8th 2007. She insisted the receipt date is oct 2007..then we showed her our 485 reciept.
    10) Then she thanked us and started looking at Aug 2007 visa bulletin. and said, even then in Aug 2007 EB2 was U, so yours was not properly filed.
    11) I told her, There was an interim Memo released by USCIS that they will accept application until Aug-17 2007 based on July 2007 visa bulletin
    12) She said she will look at DOS bulletins
    13) After 10 mins she said, she cant find any such memo..and said, since there is no evidence with her, she has to deny our case based on "Improper filing when PD was not current"
    14) Then I said, if PD was not current, wouldn't TSC return the application denying on the spot? Why would they accept the application?
    15) She said, you would think so..but they accept many times..so we are told to verify all the time
    16) THen said, she believes us but for process, she needs evidence and said she will look into further and then make a judgment.

    17) We had no choice and we were over the interview. we were little disappointed though

    18) After coming home, I realized she took all I-94s and we got panicked..because if 485 is getting denied and I-94s are gone, how do we prove our legal status, so we thought of going back..then I thought, if have to go anyway, then I should take a print out of Interim Memo

    19) I went back an hour later with the print out
    20) I told security that, we had finished our interview and officer forgot to return our I-94..they insisted that we shud take infopass and they wont allow anyone to go back..I had to really argue with them (I decided I have nothing to loose..anyway 485 is screwed and so stood there asking them to let me in)

    21) After consistent nagging, the security guy took our passports, interview response letter(After interview if your app doesn't get appproved they willgive a kind of reciept saying u attended the interview..blahblah) and went in

    22) Came back and told me to go in since the officer wants more details from you (I thought this was a miracle)

    23) I went inside, and after a while officer came back. We apologized and told her that we came back for I-94s..she said they will retain and wont return..We told her that we are not using EAD and we are still on H1B..she said she will give back..
    then she asked, I am sure you didnt come back for I-94 alone, did you get any document?

    24) We showed her the memo.

    25) She read that and said I am glad you came back..this clears everything out..I will run this by my supervisor and will see if we can adjust status today

    26) We waited for 2 hrs and then she took us inside.
    27) Asked our passports (to stamp...really)

    28) Then she looked into the computer to get the visa #.
    29) The we noticed a changed in her face and then she quickly turned into a folder of current VISA bulletin..we said..oh..no..not again.
    30) The officer said, per visa bulletin u r current and ur PD is dec 2005..there is no reason for system not to allocated a visa #..
    31)She tried for 10-15 mins and finally gave up..said she cant stamp in the passport without allotting the visa number..said sorry..I cant do anything..I will follow up with DOS ppl and will let you know in a week or so.

    32) The reason she gave is, when she tried to allot the visa, she got a message, "cut off date not established". I have no idea what this means.

    hmmm....still keeping fingers crossed..this is nothing short of a car race.


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  • harivenkat
    06-09 12:58 PM
    Cant thank you less redds777 for the update and the inspirational account you have provided.

    Truly salute all you IV members for your untiring focused effort, dedication, solidarity and commitment you heroes have torrentially outpoured over the last 3 days at the doorstep of these congressmen.

    this GC business apart, personally I learnt so many new things in life by attending this event.... this is truly a unique event of its kind.

    Thank you every body, thank you.



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  • qasleuth
    12-09 04:05 PM
    I certainly expected a better articulated reply than a brilliant one-liner.


    OK. I missed your inline comments. so here we go:


    So why bring it up at all? l have lived in Texas in hispanic majority communities. I havent met any who want california or texas to be a part of mexico. If we start bringing history into it, then the only people who should be here are the native americans.


    Like I said, I am not suggesting CA/TX should be brought back into Mexico. All the Hispanic bashing that happens day-in day-out in the media should be aware of history. I brought it up to show a different perspective.


    Immigration to the US is a privilege, not a right.


    Agreed. How you implement the spirit of the law is what we are discussing here.


    You insist on making it sound more complex than it is. It really isnt. Whats right is right and whats wrong is wrong.


    I sincerely hope you are young and when you get ten years older you may see other shades in life. I simply do not understand how you do not see as to how that man thinks about people (see my earlier post) and goes ahead and treats them the way he does.
    I am not condoning the 'illegal' act of the person but how she was treated especially when this guy has a certain mindset.


    This is propaganda. In this country no one can get away with doing what you claim he does.


    Check out the links I posted and there is always google. And there are close to 2700 lawsuits against the Sheriff. His day due in court is not very far away.





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  • alien007
    04-15 11:09 AM
    Plainspeak says.."As far as i know the whole MS F1 visa is a big scam and loophole to enter us and stay here when you are not supposed to and that is the loophole that needs to be closed first instesad of worrying about fruad porting and EB1 fraud. Closing thsi student GC loophole will clear up the whole EB retrogression mess "

    F1 is not a scam. its legal visa. once u enter into usa on F1, u can stay here to study. while doing MS, u can also work on CPT legally. after completion of the MS degree, it is legal to stay on OPT and work. recently the US govt has increased the OPT period from 12 to 29 months. again its legal. its legal to apply for H1B while maintaining a proper F1 status or OPT.

    People who dont like this.... dont either because they dont understand F1 very well, or just plainly speaking jealous or out of their mind.

    i guess we should be happy if someone is making progress legally even if we are not in the same boat.:)



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  • realizeit
    02-25 03:21 PM
    vijay226: The following is just my opinion and it is in no way a personal attack. Please come up with similar ideas like the one you just posted below. Useful or not, all ideas count as long as it is pointed towards solving the issue in a constructive manner.

    Reply to your message: We should not propose a fee for this kind of administrative change. There are few reasons for that. 1) This is just a workflow change and an internal procedural change for the USCIS. 2) There is no need for any additional incentive for the government as this is in effect not taking anything extra from the US soil in terms of opportunity etc. 3) Any addition of fee requires administration to get it approved through the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and it will make this a legislative affair. That means the whole assumption of getting it through admin fix becomes invalid. 4) In any case, if administration wants to make some extra money from us, they will come up with that proposal.

    Once again thanks for your great point and contribution. Please continue to do so.

    i think we are also need to provide some incentive to the government also for doing this,say some nominal fees around 600$ and any one contribute more than that will be tax free which goes into financial bailout package. At the end everyone wins and everyone is happy





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  • Mahatma
    07-10 02:40 PM
    Senthil has articulated legal basis of current system. However, many members feel agrieved by current situation. My displeasure with current law was based on my perception about principles of natural justice and a dogma that one measure (current provisions) should not negatively impact others basic rights for happiness, equality, nondiscrimination etc. Courts could take a look at how much damege or injury is possible or actually already resulting (stalled careers, family separation, life on hold, creativity-innovation halted) in current system. Atleast it will open up healthy debate and rational measures to address genuine problems.

    Could anybody clarify as to whether counting of family members towards annual quota is mandated by congress or it is an administrative provision.

    Bill Clinton did a wonderful fix by signing AC21 which corrected many shortfalls of immigration law.

    I am personally not impacted by backlog. However, I am feeling bad enough for the failure of current sysem that overlooks human tragedies. 180-day name check fix is a commendable step by USCIS (brought about by healthy debate and do not look at this as court-imposed). As in the scientific world, peer review and criticism is taken seriously in this country. By law suit, we are trying to create peer review or honest analysis about this impasse. No body wins but the truth and humanity.

    If there is any way to open up annual quota (recapture, family members exempt from annual limit or any measure I am not aware of), automatically everybody could benefit. It may be also possible for EB3 to interfile or refile for EB2 and take advantage of old priority date and shorten the wait. there is ot a magic wand. We could help our administrators, law makers and law protectors and law upholders to make appropriate corrections. Hence, scientific and rational dialogue through fair and just means is our focus.

    Let us highlight our difficulties in a logical way. Go about living normal life but stand up for something you believe in.

    Honestly, Ineed to do some research on EB3 situation and see if there is something more meaningful to share with IVians.



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  • realizeit
    02-25 12:58 PM
    Dear QASleuth, I have contacted Pappu and asked him to discuss this among CORE and provide us an official IV position. Once we hear back from Pappu or CORE, we can proceed further.

    Regarding what I am planning to do: If we get IV CORE's support, I will try to organize a group from St Louis MO to work on this. But we need an excellent bunch of folks from the DC/NY area who can actually meet folks at the capital and get the ball rolling. All others who are far away from DC/NY area can form small regional groups to raise funds to support the DC/NY group which will drive this effort.

    We should do something only after IV CORE's analysis of this issue and a legal feasibility study by immigration/constitutional attorneys IV can access.

    QASleuth and others who would like to do something: Please don't wait for any action from my side. You can form regional working groups now itself. Just form members of 5 and discuss this and stay in touch.

    I am new to this whole effort as anyone else here.




    Once again friends, as I said earlier: "We have far more things that unite all of us than the few things that divide us. So, let us focus only those things that unite all of us."

    So, please refrain yourself from pointing fingers at someone else and attacking someone personally.

    I am hoping realizeit is in the process of contacting IV core and will update us soon. If not, realizeit please update as to what you are planning on doing.

    After IV core gives us the go ahead, I think we should take your offer on the bridge call.

    I would also suggest, not sending any mails yet to Ombudsman till we form a plan of action.

    Ofcourse, still eagerly waiting for desi3933 to get back to us with cold hard analysis to set us straight :)





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  • PlainSpeak
    04-16 11:40 AM
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    03-09 09:04 AM
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  • alisa
    02-04 02:12 PM
    I'll take that as the final word on this issue.

    And I expect people here to have enough integrity to let us (ROW) know if they intend to pursue the interests of the oversubscribed countries only, at the expense of the interests of the ROW.

    Yes...The orgnization is about increasing the total pie and the overflow to India/china happens only after the ROW needs are complete...So your interests are taken care of...





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    12-18 08:15 PM
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  • ilikekilo
    02-26 10:06 PM
    take it easy, I totally understand what u r saying, but calm down..thanks





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  • saileshdude
    08-26 09:36 AM
    I think the IO just say anything that comes into their mind because they know nobody's there to hold them accountable during the interview process. Thats why I think one should take an attorney along during the interview process if they think their case maybe little complicated. At least the attorney can step in when it comes to the IOs denying your application improperly. Does anyone think this is a good idea to be on safer side?



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  • belmontboy
    04-16 10:18 PM
    Oh you will agree that i understand only if i agree with your point of view else you will cal me a person who pretends not to understand.

    Where are the million people who say it is not a fraud. I dont see them. All i see is you and your EB2 crowd and what is their count 20 k, 30k ??

    A single persons opinion is not a fact but this single person point of view is shared with a bunch of people who are more that 30 k so you dissing me does not make me wrong

    Big yawn

    You win lady. Be happy now





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  • Honda
    08-12 10:09 PM
    PotatoEater,

    I grow different kind in my backyard. It all depends on the size of your backyard and which zone you live in states. I live in virginia. By this August end /september first week summer crop will end. I grow tomatoes(30 plants), Mint, snake guard, water melons (15 plants), cantaloupes(10 plants), carrots, okra, spinach , chillis. Its fun and hard work too. You need to dig the soil, mix with top soil or garden soil and cultivate it. Every week fertilize it. This is my first year gardening. I have around 3000 square ft of back yard. i do not know what to do with that. I cannot maintain Lawn in back yard. So I decided to grow vegetables.
    I am eagerly waiting for my fall garden..I am planning to grow tulips,beets,cilantro,carrots,potato,peas etc., If I can get same space for garden In India and work place just 3 miles from home , I can happily go back to India.

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  • Immi_Nightmare
    07-05 10:31 PM
    Folks ,

    Thousand if not millions of us are affected by DOS's reversal of the visa bulletin, and it would be quite a protest even if 20% of us joined together and raised our voice against this ill-fated system.

    Obviously, a lot of us have been adversely affected emotionally and monetarily by this unprecedented knee-jerk reaction by DOS. A lot of our plans have gone completely astray and we again seem to be staring aimlessly at an uncertain future with very little hope in sight.

    What's even worse is none of the elected representatives have bothered to question DOS's action except Congresswoman Lofgren . Immigration seems to have become a joke to our lawmakers(Wonder why Jay Leno hasn't picked on it yet) . We most certainly deserve to be treated much more gracefully than as use-and-throw commodities.

    There was never a time when people had to wait for years togther without seeing any progress on their GC applications. Call it unfortunate , but our times have seen one set back after another for something which used to be a routine part for every legal (and highly skilled at that) immigrant's career in the United States. In fact, besides a good university system, it was this country's receptive immigration laws which brought us here in the first place and now immigration in US has become one of the most difficult hurdles to overcome.

    Modern day immigrants have done so much to empower American economy and enrich the society as well in many subtle ways. A lot of us hold important and responsible positions in our respctive firms and having permanent residency would immensely help us do our jobs more efficiently. We have left a lot behind in search of a better life,we have put in every effort to adapt to the culture and lifestyle of this country and have even turned a blind eye to ocassional racist remarks or prejudices . Inspite of going through all this, little did we imagine that one day we would even have to question if going back to where came from is actually a better option merely owing to a rigid immigration system. Eventhough times have changed and many other countries seem to have a more successful immigrationn system than the US, our administration still hasn't woken up from it's slumber.

    Sure, we all were very well aware of the KKK days or "Dot Buster" days of the 80s before coming here but then we surmised that these were threats from asinine sections of the society who were completely ignorant of how we were directly or indirectly beneficial to their own well being, but we always felt hopeful that the administration was in favor of immigration and would help us become a part of the American society. Only after coming here did we realize that the administrators were as uninformed about immigration as the perpetrators of KKK or "Dot Buster" to the extent that they sometimes did not know the difference between legal and illegal immigrants. The issue of immigration was so badly ignored that a reform was actually long due even before the additional delays of 9/11 came into effect. Well, now with the unprecedented reversal of the July bulletin by DOS , the system seems to have completely fallen apart.

    As mentioned before, we certainly deserve to be treated more gracefully but for that we have to raise our voice against this disfunctional system and alert the seemingly ignorant administrators towards our plight. Politely but firmly! We have waited patiently, but how much longer should we endure this while we are treated as simpletons in a stick-and-a-carrot game??

    I have added my 2 cents by opting to send flowers to the USCIS to be delivered on July 10th. I am not claiming this to be the best approach , but it certainly seems to be a novel approach. Atleast it doesn't offend anyone, cause extra hassles to the local administration in maintaining order during a protest and doesn't need you to take time off from your work. And no! I'm not endorsing this idea on behalf of the florists association of america(if at all there is something like that) . I'm in no way affiliated to the florists and stand to gain nothing if you ordered from them!

    We would love to know if you have a better idea, but I think it's imperative that we all rasie our voice in unison against this system.





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    04-29 08:50 AM
    Do you happen to know anyone who has been granted visa with this document saying that the student has completed all the degree requirements? Also, if I get another document from my University can I add it to the file I have already submitted to immigration?

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