sayantan76
05-23 10:18 PM
one of the reasons we have not succeeded is precisely because folks want to use their own "intellect" and not do what "IV" needs when it really needs you.
we do all of the above and more. if you like something more than the other that's perfectly fine and dandy. but if we can't collect a critical mass for an action, we lose effectiveness and shoot ourselves in the foot.
in a group this large you simply have to help the commom action and agenda for success. each opinion is important but at the end of the day the common action must be done by all, as far as possible.
paskal - i actually agree with your basic premise.....once the larger body agrees on a basic vision and strategic plan - the tactical manuevers to achieve the vision in line with strategy should be left to leaders.......
but this principle generally works in two scenarios - either when the leader (or lead group) is appointed by a higher authority (like employees following the lead of a CEO appointed by board of directors which in turn has been "elected" by shareholders) or when the leader has been directly or indirectly elected by the constituents.......
Let me give an example.......an entrepreneur starts a company with a great idea.....grows it and nurtures it with great love and passion......dedicates his whole life to the idea and the venture.......then the entrepreneur needs a larger canvas and more money to grow the vision further.......he takes the company public or gets private equity funding or raises debt........now the new owners/ stakeholders decide they need to change the management and decide to elect a person of their own choice........suddenly a rank outsider replaces the entrepreneur as CEO........the new CEO now has the legitimacy and owners' backing to dictate how the company should function.....
I welcome red dots but take a moment to absorb what I am saying and whether the principle is wrong......
we do all of the above and more. if you like something more than the other that's perfectly fine and dandy. but if we can't collect a critical mass for an action, we lose effectiveness and shoot ourselves in the foot.
in a group this large you simply have to help the commom action and agenda for success. each opinion is important but at the end of the day the common action must be done by all, as far as possible.
paskal - i actually agree with your basic premise.....once the larger body agrees on a basic vision and strategic plan - the tactical manuevers to achieve the vision in line with strategy should be left to leaders.......
but this principle generally works in two scenarios - either when the leader (or lead group) is appointed by a higher authority (like employees following the lead of a CEO appointed by board of directors which in turn has been "elected" by shareholders) or when the leader has been directly or indirectly elected by the constituents.......
Let me give an example.......an entrepreneur starts a company with a great idea.....grows it and nurtures it with great love and passion......dedicates his whole life to the idea and the venture.......then the entrepreneur needs a larger canvas and more money to grow the vision further.......he takes the company public or gets private equity funding or raises debt........now the new owners/ stakeholders decide they need to change the management and decide to elect a person of their own choice........suddenly a rank outsider replaces the entrepreneur as CEO........the new CEO now has the legitimacy and owners' backing to dictate how the company should function.....
I welcome red dots but take a moment to absorb what I am saying and whether the principle is wrong......
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masouds
08-26 07:35 PM
I totally agree everbody. ICICI bank all time sucks. I have account with them for 5 yrs. and everytime I do transfer money to India (FYI I do Wire Trasnfer On Monday morning US CST only should be credited in 1 business day, expected that the money will be credited by Tuesday IST ICICI Business time). What happens eveytime they will credit after 5 business days and provided with lowest Exchange rate.
hmm, As an Iranian citizen, I cannot do this (transfer money to Iran) anymore. When I used to live in Canada, and before all this Nuke fiasco, I could do this, and the way I got away with losing minimum amount of money was that I asked my bank to transfer, say, 2k in US$ to Iranian bank to be held until my dad went to collect it. He got $2000, with no subtraction, rate conversion or anything. He could sell it to the money exchange shops at the rate of the day. You should try doing that (Send US funds, instead of doing the send & exchange through the bank which has a vested interest in this...)
hmm, As an Iranian citizen, I cannot do this (transfer money to Iran) anymore. When I used to live in Canada, and before all this Nuke fiasco, I could do this, and the way I got away with losing minimum amount of money was that I asked my bank to transfer, say, 2k in US$ to Iranian bank to be held until my dad went to collect it. He got $2000, with no subtraction, rate conversion or anything. He could sell it to the money exchange shops at the rate of the day. You should try doing that (Send US funds, instead of doing the send & exchange through the bank which has a vested interest in this...)
waitingGC
01-31 10:41 AM
Hi waitingGC,
Could you please elaborate? I am not talking about I-485 at this point, and I do not know what cut-off date you are talking about!
I'm talking about the cut-off date in VB. No one can get GC if his/her PD is not prior to the cut-off date. The DOL will determine the cut-off date every month basing on how many 485 applications are submitted for processing in that month. Without substitution, VB might move faster.
Could you please elaborate? I am not talking about I-485 at this point, and I do not know what cut-off date you are talking about!
I'm talking about the cut-off date in VB. No one can get GC if his/her PD is not prior to the cut-off date. The DOL will determine the cut-off date every month basing on how many 485 applications are submitted for processing in that month. Without substitution, VB might move faster.
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immigrationmatters30
05-25 02:56 PM
Looks like they are going to use the unused EB visa numbers for FB.To me, this is family reunification bill and most likely will not have any benefit for us.
I think we need to study the bill in detail before we jump to any conclusions.
From reading the summary in the AILA website, specifically the below :
The legislation would reinforce our commitment to families and reduce current wait times in the family immigration system by:
�Recapturing an estimated 400,000 family-sponsored and employment-based visas that went unused between 1992 and 2007.
Atleast to me it seems like the bill plans on using all the unused visas from the past years and apply that towards the family quota. Not sure if that would help the EB cause.
Inputs anyone?
I think we need to study the bill in detail before we jump to any conclusions.
From reading the summary in the AILA website, specifically the below :
The legislation would reinforce our commitment to families and reduce current wait times in the family immigration system by:
�Recapturing an estimated 400,000 family-sponsored and employment-based visas that went unused between 1992 and 2007.
Atleast to me it seems like the bill plans on using all the unused visas from the past years and apply that towards the family quota. Not sure if that would help the EB cause.
Inputs anyone?
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sanju
09-25 10:17 AM
Just an observation -
Folks who are defending IV has a lot of Green dots -
I rest my case.
And your point is????? Wouldn't it help to understand what you are trying to say if you slightly elaborate on your position before resting your case.
Folks who are defending IV has a lot of Green dots -
I rest my case.
And your point is????? Wouldn't it help to understand what you are trying to say if you slightly elaborate on your position before resting your case.
panky72
06-18 11:01 PM
You probably didn't get my point.
I am trying to distinguish between 'offering to cover' vs 'actually have covered'. There could be a lot of difference.
I get your point. I have not used it so far. I figured if need arises and the insurance company refuses to pay then there are legal avenues to claim money from them.
I am trying to distinguish between 'offering to cover' vs 'actually have covered'. There could be a lot of difference.
I get your point. I have not used it so far. I figured if need arises and the insurance company refuses to pay then there are legal avenues to claim money from them.
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gjoe
01-30 05:19 PM
I sent that question in for the debate about 2 weeks ago. Glad it is on the list. I cannot access this link now for some reason
I guess we should use chances like these to get our agenda heard by the people and the govt. There are going to be atleast 3 more presidential debates we should try to get this question asked atleast in a couple of them. We can modify the question to make it more broad, but still keep the focus on legal immigration problems by highlighting it.
PS: You have earned yourself some green ;) I mean rep points from me
I guess we should use chances like these to get our agenda heard by the people and the govt. There are going to be atleast 3 more presidential debates we should try to get this question asked atleast in a couple of them. We can modify the question to make it more broad, but still keep the focus on legal immigration problems by highlighting it.
PS: You have earned yourself some green ;) I mean rep points from me
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pappu
01-30 10:00 AM
Pappu, what are the anti-immigration websites you talked about? I'm curious and want to see what they are thinking. thanks.
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RNGC
05-23 02:12 PM
You have a point...Ideas like yours should be given good consideration.
But IV core team has lots of experience and they have even started having talks with USICS directly, is'nt that a big achievement!
We need to try different ways to contact the law makers and find out which one is easy to implement and works efficiently.
When you call the law makers and tell them you support XYZ bill.. my question is what do you get out of it!
When the lawmaker realizes that he is getting 10000 calls from LEGAL aliens,
>who are not from his constituency,
>who can�t vote and
>who can�t contribute to his election campaign�
what is the motivation for the law maker to support the bill�
So to avoid sounding stupid and foolish and desperate when you call� a more logical approach would be to :
a) Generate a public petition form on IV website and have all the members� login and sign the forms digitally�
b) Then have IV reps.. fax them and send them to lobby groups �.
c) Lawmakers will listen to one talking head�and not worry abt 1000 calls that borders on ..�saar �support the bill saar�..
How many of you have actually talked to the lawmakers? Its always the assistant!
But instead .. someone says we have a signed petition of 25000 members effected by immigration mess �. And it�s a hi tech workers lobby group ..every lawmaker will talk to you and not the assistant!
Conclusion: calling the lawmakers haphazardly is actually hurting IV cause..to a certain extent!
:cool:
But IV core team has lots of experience and they have even started having talks with USICS directly, is'nt that a big achievement!
We need to try different ways to contact the law makers and find out which one is easy to implement and works efficiently.
When you call the law makers and tell them you support XYZ bill.. my question is what do you get out of it!
When the lawmaker realizes that he is getting 10000 calls from LEGAL aliens,
>who are not from his constituency,
>who can�t vote and
>who can�t contribute to his election campaign�
what is the motivation for the law maker to support the bill�
So to avoid sounding stupid and foolish and desperate when you call� a more logical approach would be to :
a) Generate a public petition form on IV website and have all the members� login and sign the forms digitally�
b) Then have IV reps.. fax them and send them to lobby groups �.
c) Lawmakers will listen to one talking head�and not worry abt 1000 calls that borders on ..�saar �support the bill saar�..
How many of you have actually talked to the lawmakers? Its always the assistant!
But instead .. someone says we have a signed petition of 25000 members effected by immigration mess �. And it�s a hi tech workers lobby group ..every lawmaker will talk to you and not the assistant!
Conclusion: calling the lawmakers haphazardly is actually hurting IV cause..to a certain extent!
:cool:
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pointlesswait
03-13 11:55 AM
That is correct, 9 months and then I will return to my country for good.
I am waiting for the day when we get the GC , we will tear it into pieces and throw in front of consulate.
Cheers
yeah right..;-)
I am waiting for the day when we get the GC , we will tear it into pieces and throw in front of consulate.
Cheers
yeah right..;-)
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guesswho
05-20 04:45 PM
Did you consider using "atlas america" and other bunch of travel insurance that advertise themselves as PPO? I am wondering if anyone has expericence dealing with them regarding claims. I purchased that recently for my parents since it had 100/0 or 90/10 coverage.
Anyone has experience going to hospital using these insurance?
Hi I am a physician in Oregon and my parents are visiting too in July. I called Kaiser regarding this, and this is what I was told.
1. they can get insurance since Kaiser does not need an SSN for the application.
2. Every Plan has a deductible $, an out of pocket maximum $, and a co-insurance $ amount.
So,
Plan A: Deductible 2500, Co-insurance 22% of all inpatient cost upto max of $22,000.
Plan B: Deductible 6000, Co-insurance 50% of all inpatient cost upto max of $50,000.
Essentially none of these plans are a 'good deal'. But remember its easier to pay back a loan of 22k - 50k than to pay back 100-200k.
Also since Kaiser is an HMO, and has its own facilities in the west coast and Hawaii, 'accepting insurance' is not a problem.
Anyone has experience going to hospital using these insurance?
Hi I am a physician in Oregon and my parents are visiting too in July. I called Kaiser regarding this, and this is what I was told.
1. they can get insurance since Kaiser does not need an SSN for the application.
2. Every Plan has a deductible $, an out of pocket maximum $, and a co-insurance $ amount.
So,
Plan A: Deductible 2500, Co-insurance 22% of all inpatient cost upto max of $22,000.
Plan B: Deductible 6000, Co-insurance 50% of all inpatient cost upto max of $50,000.
Essentially none of these plans are a 'good deal'. But remember its easier to pay back a loan of 22k - 50k than to pay back 100-200k.
Also since Kaiser is an HMO, and has its own facilities in the west coast and Hawaii, 'accepting insurance' is not a problem.
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priderock
11-28 02:23 PM
Agree totally. If you look at the history there has been opposition to immigration. They said bad things about Italians, Irish and others. Some of the haters are once hated. But the life goes on !!!!
I am a highly skilled professional working in this state providing a valuable service. I have a green card petition pending. Those like Lou Dobbs oppose migration of those of my kind, virtually any kind. Please tell me why? What do I tell my grateful patients, about this self acclaimed patriot?
His is an agenda against all immigration. He just finds the most convenient arguments now against illegal immigration. Let me explain, I am on H1b visa, he criticizes that as well. My conclusion is he wants me to leave too. Ask him to name one kind of immigration he is for.
His is an agenda against all immigration. I trust America can see past it. Recently I went to an upper end car dealership in Detroit to buy a car. The dealer there commented that if it were not for professionals like myself buying his cars, his dealership would struggle. I'm not sure why Lou Dobbs does not wish to understand that. He is certainly smart enough to do so. Perhaps he does not want to understand. He preys on the worst fears of people, instead of building on their optimism. That is not what got this country where it is. If this country were full of Lou Dobbs, frankly I would not want to be part of it. Fortunately, I believe it is not.
I am a highly skilled professional working in this state providing a valuable service. I have a green card petition pending. Those like Lou Dobbs oppose migration of those of my kind, virtually any kind. Please tell me why? What do I tell my grateful patients, about this self acclaimed patriot?
His is an agenda against all immigration. He just finds the most convenient arguments now against illegal immigration. Let me explain, I am on H1b visa, he criticizes that as well. My conclusion is he wants me to leave too. Ask him to name one kind of immigration he is for.
His is an agenda against all immigration. I trust America can see past it. Recently I went to an upper end car dealership in Detroit to buy a car. The dealer there commented that if it were not for professionals like myself buying his cars, his dealership would struggle. I'm not sure why Lou Dobbs does not wish to understand that. He is certainly smart enough to do so. Perhaps he does not want to understand. He preys on the worst fears of people, instead of building on their optimism. That is not what got this country where it is. If this country were full of Lou Dobbs, frankly I would not want to be part of it. Fortunately, I believe it is not.
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p1234
10-03 12:09 PM
Sensible people,
I need some greens here. :P
EB2 I/C retrogression 10-03-2008 11:11 AM Here you go again.
EB2 I/C retrogression 10-03-2008 08:17 AM Kutte
EB2 I/C retrogression 10-03-2008 08:16 AM Saale
EB2 I/C retrogression 10-03-2008 01:23 AM disapprov
Dude, I'm not flaming at you (it was gctest not you) but you also made really demeaning statements and then tried to retract them when you started getting reds, I think. Its not good to trash others.
I need some greens here. :P
EB2 I/C retrogression 10-03-2008 11:11 AM Here you go again.
EB2 I/C retrogression 10-03-2008 08:17 AM Kutte
EB2 I/C retrogression 10-03-2008 08:16 AM Saale
EB2 I/C retrogression 10-03-2008 01:23 AM disapprov
Dude, I'm not flaming at you (it was gctest not you) but you also made really demeaning statements and then tried to retract them when you started getting reds, I think. Its not good to trash others.
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srikondoji
02-13 05:07 PM
Complaints and complimenets are both important.
I guess, what logiclife is doing is right. It is correct to defend the organization and also respond to personal attacks in a befitting manner.
When i joined this organization, the only thing on my mind was to be part of the force. I was not expecting anything dramatic out of this. I cannot alone do this job, so i thought why not be part of the team which has committed to fight for a just cause.
Instead of infighting, let us unite and offer suggestions for better results.
Best regards
I guess, what logiclife is doing is right. It is correct to defend the organization and also respond to personal attacks in a befitting manner.
When i joined this organization, the only thing on my mind was to be part of the force. I was not expecting anything dramatic out of this. I cannot alone do this job, so i thought why not be part of the team which has committed to fight for a just cause.
Instead of infighting, let us unite and offer suggestions for better results.
Best regards
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lonedesi
04-07 12:08 PM
Just contributed $200...its on its way. Keep up the great job IV core guys. We need to judiciously utilize the momentum we have gained and achieve our goals....for we have spent a lot of time, effort and sacrificed a lot to reach where we are right now...You guys have our support and continue the good work...as the path ahead is not going to be any easy
Thank you
Thank you
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admin
04-09 08:32 PM
Moderators, do you think it's possible to issue an email receipt to contributors? I donated $250 so far and the first $100 was done through my bank billpay.. However, the online billpay deducted the amount right away, and it didn't give me any indication whether the check was actually endorsed by the intended recipient on the supposed delivery date.. Worrying about that, I sent in my second contribution via paypal.
Writing an actual paper check, I would see a copy of endorsement online, or using paypal I would know it's cashed out via email. But this is not the case with my bank's (bank of america) online billpay. Thanks!
xu1,
Thanks for highlighting this issue. Going forward if our contributors would like confirmation that their check has been received, please write your email id in the memo section of the check or the account number section of the bill payment check. We have changed our Contributions (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44) page to reflect this.
Writing an actual paper check, I would see a copy of endorsement online, or using paypal I would know it's cashed out via email. But this is not the case with my bank's (bank of america) online billpay. Thanks!
xu1,
Thanks for highlighting this issue. Going forward if our contributors would like confirmation that their check has been received, please write your email id in the memo section of the check or the account number section of the bill payment check. We have changed our Contributions (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44) page to reflect this.
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Green.Tech
06-19 06:13 PM
Please don't be. I am glad that I finally got a response!!
Thanks willwin.
Keep the phone lines ringing, folks!
Thanks willwin.
Keep the phone lines ringing, folks!
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munnu77
12-08 05:25 PM
Tell them how people are reluctant to make an investment in this country just bcos of this uncertainty..Make our story more about this country than just 'us'.
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chanduv23
02-01 07:06 PM
Speak for yourself Mister! I have never done anything illiegal, I haven't faked my resume, I haven't jumped fences or over stayed my visa ... just because you have done something wrong, why incriminate the rest of us ?
This is what I mean by fingerpointing. So why are u so special? Just because u claim to be honest u must not point fingers at others. I am not criticizing u or not arguing, but fingerpointing will not lead to anything constructive. From what I have done so far, I have no clue if I have done something wrong, u r already pointing finger at me.
People in the past and currently are working hard to achieve their goals, fingerpointing and blaming others for the situation will never help.
This is what I mean by fingerpointing. So why are u so special? Just because u claim to be honest u must not point fingers at others. I am not criticizing u or not arguing, but fingerpointing will not lead to anything constructive. From what I have done so far, I have no clue if I have done something wrong, u r already pointing finger at me.
People in the past and currently are working hard to achieve their goals, fingerpointing and blaming others for the situation will never help.
rajuseattle
04-18 08:07 PM
Lets keep this thread to celebrate OP's Green Card and some inspiration for Hopeless EB-3 guys.
Krish: I agreed VISA recpature and not including dependents will help us a lot, but looking at the current political divisiveness and people focusing more on 2012 election cycle and the campaigning, noone going to touch this HOT POtato of legislative reforms for Legal immigration. Now considering wait until the formation of 113th US congress it is about 20 months time, so do u expect People who are qualified and getting an opportunity to get out of EB-3 mess should wait that long? People already waiting since 2002/2003 PDs and no sign of any legal relief from USCIS/DoS for this hopeless EB-3 india people. Once agian legit porting is the way out to come out of EB-3 india mess, their is no other solution for us. When you compare all retroigress classes EB-3 india is the worst, we are still in April 2002 as compared to other EB-3 categories which are now in July 2005 range. (china is exception to this they are way better than us to somewhere 2004 range). Please dont bring in this issue in this celebration thread, let people cheer something, we already had so many useless threads and verbal arguments on this subject.
Krish: I agreed VISA recpature and not including dependents will help us a lot, but looking at the current political divisiveness and people focusing more on 2012 election cycle and the campaigning, noone going to touch this HOT POtato of legislative reforms for Legal immigration. Now considering wait until the formation of 113th US congress it is about 20 months time, so do u expect People who are qualified and getting an opportunity to get out of EB-3 mess should wait that long? People already waiting since 2002/2003 PDs and no sign of any legal relief from USCIS/DoS for this hopeless EB-3 india people. Once agian legit porting is the way out to come out of EB-3 india mess, their is no other solution for us. When you compare all retroigress classes EB-3 india is the worst, we are still in April 2002 as compared to other EB-3 categories which are now in July 2005 range. (china is exception to this they are way better than us to somewhere 2004 range). Please dont bring in this issue in this celebration thread, let people cheer something, we already had so many useless threads and verbal arguments on this subject.
Macaca
02-13 08:57 PM
Right now 64 members and 149 guests are on line? How do guests get on line? Thanks.
