JazzByTheBay
12-12 09:48 PM
Let's just compare it with membership-based organizations like IEEE, for instance.
You enroll/become a member, you get access to member-only areas of the web site, and plenty of other benefits to make membership worthwhile.
Earlier today I received a mailer from "The Club" (Commonwealth Club of California, iirc). For the benefits offered, and for the general spirit and intent of the club, I thought the $85/110 membership dues were quite reasonable.
My question comes back to IV - why can't 10,000 or all 25,000 of IV's members decide what we're doing is worth it, the access to information is worth it, the free legal guidance and advice is worth it, and other benefits (that may be thought up... for instance travel discounts, etc.) are worth it - to "contribute" to IV (call it whatever you will - contribution/membership dues)?
Next, of course, is the concept of "premium" membership for web sites like WSJ.com, or technical ones like Experts-Exchange for instance. You join, you get premium content. IV has much more to offer than just premium content here.
(As a sidenote, one example is members getting newsletters - online or paper - with expert legal opinions and answers on our most common questions. Authoritative, as much as they can be, with documentation where required... rather than spending 2 hours searching the forums and still coming up blank or inconclusive... )
There are other logistics issues that can be resolved, and *we* = all members, will empower IV to do a lot more by doing that, imho. I can think of 20 things we can do in addition to this lobbying effort - and we won't have to start a funding drive each time we decide to do something.
Thanks for participating in this debate and making your opinions known. Most importantly, this is about brainstorming and coming up with more ideas - regardless of whether we take this membership-only approach or not.
Ultimately, whatever IV is able to accomplish will benefit the entire legal immigrant community, regardless of contributions/memberships. However, the need of the hour is to realize the opportunities we are missing because of lack of resources and hands in most cases.
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I guess you are talking about premium membership like wsj etc. I am not sure a free exchange of ideas can occur if we put our membership for sale by restricting access to some parts of the website. IV will lose some of its sheen and I am not sure the tradeoff in membership $ is worth it- dunno just doesn't feel right in the gut
You enroll/become a member, you get access to member-only areas of the web site, and plenty of other benefits to make membership worthwhile.
Earlier today I received a mailer from "The Club" (Commonwealth Club of California, iirc). For the benefits offered, and for the general spirit and intent of the club, I thought the $85/110 membership dues were quite reasonable.
My question comes back to IV - why can't 10,000 or all 25,000 of IV's members decide what we're doing is worth it, the access to information is worth it, the free legal guidance and advice is worth it, and other benefits (that may be thought up... for instance travel discounts, etc.) are worth it - to "contribute" to IV (call it whatever you will - contribution/membership dues)?
Next, of course, is the concept of "premium" membership for web sites like WSJ.com, or technical ones like Experts-Exchange for instance. You join, you get premium content. IV has much more to offer than just premium content here.
(As a sidenote, one example is members getting newsletters - online or paper - with expert legal opinions and answers on our most common questions. Authoritative, as much as they can be, with documentation where required... rather than spending 2 hours searching the forums and still coming up blank or inconclusive... )
There are other logistics issues that can be resolved, and *we* = all members, will empower IV to do a lot more by doing that, imho. I can think of 20 things we can do in addition to this lobbying effort - and we won't have to start a funding drive each time we decide to do something.
Thanks for participating in this debate and making your opinions known. Most importantly, this is about brainstorming and coming up with more ideas - regardless of whether we take this membership-only approach or not.
Ultimately, whatever IV is able to accomplish will benefit the entire legal immigrant community, regardless of contributions/memberships. However, the need of the hour is to realize the opportunities we are missing because of lack of resources and hands in most cases.
cheers!
jazz
I guess you are talking about premium membership like wsj etc. I am not sure a free exchange of ideas can occur if we put our membership for sale by restricting access to some parts of the website. IV will lose some of its sheen and I am not sure the tradeoff in membership $ is worth it- dunno just doesn't feel right in the gut
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nixstor
11-12 02:13 PM
Was just watching Late Edition on CNN..with Arlen Specter and Chuck Schumer.. Specter did mention that he expects the CIR to be passed in the next few weeks in the lame duck session by the house.. infact he mentioned that the conservative outgoing speaker Hastert in favour of this at this time..so house might pass this now..with the senate already passed this..
Lets see who this goes ..
which day's late edition? any transcript links?
Lets see who this goes ..
which day's late edition? any transcript links?
grupak
06-13 12:45 PM
Pappu,
2. I have told this before but would like to repeat now... I don't contribute because there is nothing for CP filers here. VISA recapturing is the only effort that would benefit CP filers but anyway the chances of that bill passing is close to 0.
In my opinion, the biggest sufferers are people in EB3 India or China and who have opted for CP (now guys, don't start lecturing on CP vs. 485. We have heard it enough).
willwin I understand from your posts that being in CP with retro dates is very tough. No point in trying to compare whose situation is tougher.
We have a few bills that will help everyone. Instead of getting disheartened, follow you handle and participate in IV efforts.
The way I see it, if we take action, chance for success increases no matter how minuscule it might seem.
2. I have told this before but would like to repeat now... I don't contribute because there is nothing for CP filers here. VISA recapturing is the only effort that would benefit CP filers but anyway the chances of that bill passing is close to 0.
In my opinion, the biggest sufferers are people in EB3 India or China and who have opted for CP (now guys, don't start lecturing on CP vs. 485. We have heard it enough).
willwin I understand from your posts that being in CP with retro dates is very tough. No point in trying to compare whose situation is tougher.
We have a few bills that will help everyone. Instead of getting disheartened, follow you handle and participate in IV efforts.
The way I see it, if we take action, chance for success increases no matter how minuscule it might seem.
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ilikekilo
05-04 09:52 PM
Does any one know about any existing law (that has been passed as part of a bill or whatever) that offers whistleblower protection for non immigrant visa workers (H1b. L1 etc)?
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go_gc_way
06-07 09:41 PM
I think , of what Mr. Logic Life said summarizes and represents the state of us all , who wish to obtain a Green Card and are on H, L ect. VISAS.
I think, It is absolutely right "We deserve fair and speedy immigration.".
Opportunity of working in America is great ... but when skilled professionals will have to choose H1,L1 or GC , they land in an unpleasant experience, that goes on for ever until they obtain their GC.
I think, It is absolutely right "We deserve fair and speedy immigration.".
Opportunity of working in America is great ... but when skilled professionals will have to choose H1,L1 or GC , they land in an unpleasant experience, that goes on for ever until they obtain their GC.
485Mbe4001
05-23 04:17 PM
As someone who has talked to the congressmen and their staff, i can say that they do keep track of the number of people calling to support or speak against a bill. They can judge the public support or backlash easily. Talk radios inflamed anti immigrant groups who made thousands of calls. We on the other hand analyze the bills to death (in process provide talking points to the opposition), ask for minute by minute updates and start daydreaming on how we will celebrate when the bills pass. We make one call and expect immediate results.
You might be a 'voteless alien' but realize that you are supporting an economy of 'voters'. In your spare time calculate the amount of money you spend and the ancillary jobs you directly or indirectly support, you will be surprised.
Finally, the IV folks have some experience and they say things based on some background information that you might not be privy to. Also realize that many hardworking members of IV have their green cards and they are still working for the likes of you and I. I can understand that your post could be an immediate negative reaction of the amendments failure but the fact that you care shows that there is point to your pointless wait.
looks like ur sunny side is up and its still raw!..;-) (2 posts)
my point is: citizens matter..not voteless aliens..
we cannot have the same game plan as numbersusa...
all i am saying is..maybe we need a newer and innovative approach to get our voices heard.. One speaking head ..not a herd!
You might be a 'voteless alien' but realize that you are supporting an economy of 'voters'. In your spare time calculate the amount of money you spend and the ancillary jobs you directly or indirectly support, you will be surprised.
Finally, the IV folks have some experience and they say things based on some background information that you might not be privy to. Also realize that many hardworking members of IV have their green cards and they are still working for the likes of you and I. I can understand that your post could be an immediate negative reaction of the amendments failure but the fact that you care shows that there is point to your pointless wait.
looks like ur sunny side is up and its still raw!..;-) (2 posts)
my point is: citizens matter..not voteless aliens..
we cannot have the same game plan as numbersusa...
all i am saying is..maybe we need a newer and innovative approach to get our voices heard.. One speaking head ..not a herd!
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01-31 10:29 PM
However I asked the same question again on hillaryclinton.com for the voice across america townhall
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axp817
03-31 08:39 AM
So do you think they are going after AC21 folks as a scapegoat? I spoke to few people on this including lawyers and they say that "denials on 485" when 140 gets revoked is a common thing and usually the officer who issues the denial letter does not check and verify to see other details. Thats why they have to go through the MTR process.
Although, UN seems to suspect that there might be more beneath the surface here.
What still beats me is that if the 140 had problems, why would they even bother requesting for AC21 evidence and not just deny the 485 in the first place.
Unless..., when the 140 got revoked they realized that it had been more than a 180 days since the 485 was filed, and gave the applicant the benefit of doubt and asked for a new EVL, but while the applicant was in the process of replying to the NOID, they did some more digging, found that the underlying approved 140 had ability to pay (or other) issues and then denied the 485 on that basis.
UN,
You seem to be 'in the know' about this case/applicant, do you happen to know what the next steps are/would be/should be in this particular case?
Thanks,
Although, UN seems to suspect that there might be more beneath the surface here.
What still beats me is that if the 140 had problems, why would they even bother requesting for AC21 evidence and not just deny the 485 in the first place.
Unless..., when the 140 got revoked they realized that it had been more than a 180 days since the 485 was filed, and gave the applicant the benefit of doubt and asked for a new EVL, but while the applicant was in the process of replying to the NOID, they did some more digging, found that the underlying approved 140 had ability to pay (or other) issues and then denied the 485 on that basis.
UN,
You seem to be 'in the know' about this case/applicant, do you happen to know what the next steps are/would be/should be in this particular case?
Thanks,
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anilsal
03-13 12:57 AM
enjoying life after the GC what else??!!!
answer with complete honesty, if YOU got your green card today, would YOU ever be involved in IV again? except maybe when you want some answers during your naturalization stage?
:)
naive....naive.....
IV is a movement. Once you are on it, irrespective of whether you are personally successful, you will be associated with IV. I do not have my GC yet. But surely when I have it, I will continue my association with IV. :)
answer with complete honesty, if YOU got your green card today, would YOU ever be involved in IV again? except maybe when you want some answers during your naturalization stage?
:)
naive....naive.....
IV is a movement. Once you are on it, irrespective of whether you are personally successful, you will be associated with IV. I do not have my GC yet. But surely when I have it, I will continue my association with IV. :)
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qplearn
09-13 01:30 PM
The company I work in is a medium sized business organization. My boss is a staunch republican. I hope to make him aware of these 2 bills and request him to write to the locol congressman and the senator. If we can all do the same then we can buil substantial momentum towards getting these 2 bills passed. Since most of the businesses have republican leanings and at some time have contributed towards the GOP in some way, their endorsements can have a major impact.
I have written to my local HOuse rep; no response from him.
I agree with Alabaman. We need to coordinate and do something. Waiting and watching will get us nowhere.
I have written to my local HOuse rep; no response from him.
I agree with Alabaman. We need to coordinate and do something. Waiting and watching will get us nowhere.
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meg_z
02-28 03:19 PM
I think the memo everyne is refering to is Cronin memo. Here is the link. https://www.shusterman.com/cronin51600.html. I-94 date after using AP is one year from entry date, at least in my case.
Can you please provide a link to this memo ? My attorney said, if I want to continue on H1 after reentry, I must get H1 stamped and enter in H status. If I use AP for reentry, I should change to EAD at work. This memo will help.
I know there is a memo about continuing on H1B after filing I485 (dual intent) in the context of AC21 , but I am not aware about one that deals with entering with AP and continuing on H1.
Most of the answers above talk about transferring/extending the H1 after the reentry to get a new I94. How about if you want to continue with the same employer and you already have H1 valid until 2011 ? Do you still apply for H1 extension ? If so what basis ?
Do they enter a validity date on I94 when we enter using AP ? If so what date would that be ?
What is the significance of this date on I94 when one wants to use EAD and never goes back to H1 ?
Can you please provide a link to this memo ? My attorney said, if I want to continue on H1 after reentry, I must get H1 stamped and enter in H status. If I use AP for reentry, I should change to EAD at work. This memo will help.
I know there is a memo about continuing on H1B after filing I485 (dual intent) in the context of AC21 , but I am not aware about one that deals with entering with AP and continuing on H1.
Most of the answers above talk about transferring/extending the H1 after the reentry to get a new I94. How about if you want to continue with the same employer and you already have H1 valid until 2011 ? Do you still apply for H1 extension ? If so what basis ?
Do they enter a validity date on I94 when we enter using AP ? If so what date would that be ?
What is the significance of this date on I94 when one wants to use EAD and never goes back to H1 ?
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gc28262
03-11 01:01 PM
No offense to the OP and Thanks for posting this, but this thread is kind of diverting us from some of the efforts currently in progress, we are again playing the prediction game.
Lets contribute to the FOIA funding drive and get the right information.
thanks,
7zen
This thread should not divert our attention from FOIA action item. We just got some information through senator. It does not have enough details to conclude anything.
This response should help us to focus on what to ask for in FOIA/efforts through senators. It is a pointer that we won't get the required info unless we clearly specify what we want.
Lets contribute to the FOIA funding drive and get the right information.
thanks,
7zen
This thread should not divert our attention from FOIA action item. We just got some information through senator. It does not have enough details to conclude anything.
This response should help us to focus on what to ask for in FOIA/efforts through senators. It is a pointer that we won't get the required info unless we clearly specify what we want.
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JulyFiler
08-14 07:23 PM
I agree completely with the OP. Education should be rewarded. People with higher education should be rewarded likewise. PhD > MS > B.XXX. If you have done masters and possess higher qualifications but had to apply in a lower EB category it is your problem or the job you applied for does not require higher qualifications. Either way, it is not USCIS prob.
I also agree with the fact the OP mentioned that MS folks and PhD folks who sweat out eventually end up losing more financially. This is the first time I am seeing some relief/reward for higher qualified people. I have seen people (have friends too) who came in 2000 straight on H1 and have been making big bucks since then and stuck in EB3. I have seen my friends port to EB2 and get GC. All this makes me feel like I have wasted 2-3 yrs in getting a masters. It is time we got rewarded. This does not mean I want others to be punished. I am saying people with higher qualifications need to be rewarded.
Chanakya has posted very balanced views. Good job man. Lot of folks are bitter and have misconstrued your arguments and jumped right in to attack without even thinking.
You are also right that very very rarely do you see a mature discussion in these forums. which is why I just keep away. I just laugh at the sillines that is often displayed here. People dont want to see what they dont want to see. Just few minutes back I saw a post where the OP claims to have entered the country in 1999, applied in 2004 and got his GC. He says he "has been waiting for 8.5 years". thats silly. he applied in 2004. so the wait is only 4.5 yrs. If that was the case I came to this country in 1999. I should have gotten the GC before his. should I crib about it now?
Btw, I am in EB2. I made a choice to do my masters expecting some benefits. What use is the degree if it doesnt benefit me? No one would be going for MS and PhD if they are all same.
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I also agree with the fact the OP mentioned that MS folks and PhD folks who sweat out eventually end up losing more financially. This is the first time I am seeing some relief/reward for higher qualified people. I have seen people (have friends too) who came in 2000 straight on H1 and have been making big bucks since then and stuck in EB3. I have seen my friends port to EB2 and get GC. All this makes me feel like I have wasted 2-3 yrs in getting a masters. It is time we got rewarded. This does not mean I want others to be punished. I am saying people with higher qualifications need to be rewarded.
Chanakya has posted very balanced views. Good job man. Lot of folks are bitter and have misconstrued your arguments and jumped right in to attack without even thinking.
You are also right that very very rarely do you see a mature discussion in these forums. which is why I just keep away. I just laugh at the sillines that is often displayed here. People dont want to see what they dont want to see. Just few minutes back I saw a post where the OP claims to have entered the country in 1999, applied in 2004 and got his GC. He says he "has been waiting for 8.5 years". thats silly. he applied in 2004. so the wait is only 4.5 yrs. If that was the case I came to this country in 1999. I should have gotten the GC before his. should I crib about it now?
Btw, I am in EB2. I made a choice to do my masters expecting some benefits. What use is the degree if it doesnt benefit me? No one would be going for MS and PhD if they are all same.
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a_paul1
04-02 08:41 PM
1. Employer gave documentary evidence of a valid job for the candidate to secure H1B visa. The question of calling or not calling the candidate to come to US does not arise. The employer, by petitioning USCIS, admited that he wants to employ the candidate in US. The candidate does not need any further letter to come to US. All the required documents are already with the candidate when he goes for stamping.
Hence, it is valid for the candidate to come to US by presenting documentation.
1.1 Exception: If the Employer proactively cancels the H1B that changes everything, which I believe is not the situation here. (The candidate wouldn't even be able to enter US in that case.). Unless, the H1B is canceled, the employer is on the hook and not the candidate.
2. Payment for visa by candidate is not fraud on the part of the candidate if he had no intention. Although ignorance of the law is almost never an excuse, this is a grey area really. The candidate might have paid to the employer and not to USCIS for the petition. The actual responsibility to not take payment lies with the employer. My opinion: Candidate will not be held liable for this.
3. If Employer fails to provide paystubs or fails to put him on payroll, he is on the hook. He is liable for full wages as long as he does not cancel H1b (unless the H1B is transferred of course). He is also liable to pay return fare to the candidate.
IMHO, the candidate is cool. No issue. Go ahead with your complaint to DOL. Good luck to you. Come back to work for a genuine employer with a new stamp.
Hence, it is valid for the candidate to come to US by presenting documentation.
1.1 Exception: If the Employer proactively cancels the H1B that changes everything, which I believe is not the situation here. (The candidate wouldn't even be able to enter US in that case.). Unless, the H1B is canceled, the employer is on the hook and not the candidate.
2. Payment for visa by candidate is not fraud on the part of the candidate if he had no intention. Although ignorance of the law is almost never an excuse, this is a grey area really. The candidate might have paid to the employer and not to USCIS for the petition. The actual responsibility to not take payment lies with the employer. My opinion: Candidate will not be held liable for this.
3. If Employer fails to provide paystubs or fails to put him on payroll, he is on the hook. He is liable for full wages as long as he does not cancel H1b (unless the H1B is transferred of course). He is also liable to pay return fare to the candidate.
IMHO, the candidate is cool. No issue. Go ahead with your complaint to DOL. Good luck to you. Come back to work for a genuine employer with a new stamp.
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Carlau
02-05 05:04 PM
what logic life says makes 100% sense. we are not here to fight --- there are other forums for that. in fact, i should not have respoded to eb3_nepa at all
I am not fighting but YES, my reason to join IV was to find justice to the H-4 not being able to work when L-1 spouses and Agjob spouses (I read this a year ago) could. Although no promises were made from IV, I was surprised today since nothing was ever said regarding no interest in the H-4 cause when many discussions were in place. Here people contribute for their own benefits, I was here for the H-4s, that is why I transcribed part of the conference calls too, so I was somehow a contributor to a cause that doesn't represnt my interests, but I know it represents the interests of the unmarried folks, or married to IT 'spouses' folks, so for this folks the fight for better legal provisions still on, good luck to you!.
I am not fighting but YES, my reason to join IV was to find justice to the H-4 not being able to work when L-1 spouses and Agjob spouses (I read this a year ago) could. Although no promises were made from IV, I was surprised today since nothing was ever said regarding no interest in the H-4 cause when many discussions were in place. Here people contribute for their own benefits, I was here for the H-4s, that is why I transcribed part of the conference calls too, so I was somehow a contributor to a cause that doesn't represnt my interests, but I know it represents the interests of the unmarried folks, or married to IT 'spouses' folks, so for this folks the fight for better legal provisions still on, good luck to you!.
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07-10 09:07 PM
However this smacks of unfairness as well. See this comment on Greg Siskind's blog (http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2007/07/service-centers.html#comments) in response to the news about TSC holding the applications while NSC's been retirning them and some July 02 packages have been returned as well.
Greg,
Where did you get this news? If they partially returned some cases received on July 02, it is very very very unfair for those got returned. They were the first getting in the line and now they have to wait at the end of the line??? If USCIS is going to treat the returned cases that way, they will face more lawsuits to come. If they are to hold later on cases, they have have have to allow the returned cases to be sent back and put in front of the line, with delivery notice as the proof of getting sent back.
This is very annoying notice indeed.
Posted by: no more patience | July 10, 2007 at 05:02 PM
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Greg,
Where did you get this news? If they partially returned some cases received on July 02, it is very very very unfair for those got returned. They were the first getting in the line and now they have to wait at the end of the line??? If USCIS is going to treat the returned cases that way, they will face more lawsuits to come. If they are to hold later on cases, they have have have to allow the returned cases to be sent back and put in front of the line, with delivery notice as the proof of getting sent back.
This is very annoying notice indeed.
Posted by: no more patience | July 10, 2007 at 05:02 PM
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Thanks,
Jayant
mk26
01-21 09:54 AM
I am in , can any one tell me if we can fight to get our social security money if they target only H1bs, why don't they do this also who will deported should get the money contributed to social security and medicare
meg_z
02-28 03:19 PM
I think the memo everyne is refering to is Cronin memo. Here is the link. https://www.shusterman.com/cronin51600.html. I-94 date after using AP is one year from entry date, at least in my case.
Can you please provide a link to this memo ? My attorney said, if I want to continue on H1 after reentry, I must get H1 stamped and enter in H status. If I use AP for reentry, I should change to EAD at work. This memo will help.
I know there is a memo about continuing on H1B after filing I485 (dual intent) in the context of AC21 , but I am not aware about one that deals with entering with AP and continuing on H1.
Most of the answers above talk about transferring/extending the H1 after the reentry to get a new I94. How about if you want to continue with the same employer and you already have H1 valid until 2011 ? Do you still apply for H1 extension ? If so what basis ?
Do they enter a validity date on I94 when we enter using AP ? If so what date would that be ?
What is the significance of this date on I94 when one wants to use EAD and never goes back to H1 ?
Can you please provide a link to this memo ? My attorney said, if I want to continue on H1 after reentry, I must get H1 stamped and enter in H status. If I use AP for reentry, I should change to EAD at work. This memo will help.
I know there is a memo about continuing on H1B after filing I485 (dual intent) in the context of AC21 , but I am not aware about one that deals with entering with AP and continuing on H1.
Most of the answers above talk about transferring/extending the H1 after the reentry to get a new I94. How about if you want to continue with the same employer and you already have H1 valid until 2011 ? Do you still apply for H1 extension ? If so what basis ?
Do they enter a validity date on I94 when we enter using AP ? If so what date would that be ?
What is the significance of this date on I94 when one wants to use EAD and never goes back to H1 ?
